Yes.... my bad..... should have been MG-3 not G-3 which I have fired with a scope.

Designers from Mauser extended from the StG assault rifle series. The G-3, FN, L1A1, and CETME are all cousins.

The point of modern weapons in comparison is that the early designs were in many cases modified from those in Germany in WWII.

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Coir a glaive

Nemo me impune lacessit

Depends:

Quality: Germans

Quantity: Russians

Russians deserve more then then just quantity

And the German "quality", is only good on paper..... in reality, reliability comes in question.....

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Quality or quantity... who are these guys that set forth such idiotic maxims???

So the German made and mass produced Mauser is of better quality than the Russian Mosin Nagant? Or the Lee Enfield? Why? Because it is German?

The fact is that they are quite similar. As is the rest of the products. Well almost.

For me a quality product is something that I can use for years and years, and hand over to my sons when the time comes.

So the equipment that is prone to breakdown has little quality to me. In short the Russian equipment is of good quality. The long service lenght of some of this kit goes a long way to prove my point.

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'We march. The enemy is retreating in transport. We follow on foot.' Lt.Neil McCallum 5/7 Gordons 19th November 1942

The Russians generally took the view that the optimum military weapon was one which was made just well enough to do its job reliably, and to last as long as it needed to. To spend more time and effort than that was basically a waste of resources which could be better employed doing something else.

So the T-34 had a very rough finish, because a finer one would carried no practical advantage. Similarly, even into the 1950s their aircraft cannon lasted for only about 3,000 rounds, because in combat very few guns fired even 1,000 rounds before being destroyed.

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Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website

Brilliant, isn't it?

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Everly Brothers - What I Have To Do Is Dream
"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."

Now who makes the most shiny weapons? Or he ones with the really kewl names?

This thread will continnue, then burn out, only to be lit again around June when we all are pretty damn tired of lawnmoving...

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'We march. The enemy is retreating in transport. We follow on foot.' Lt.Neil McCallum 5/7 Gordons 19th November 1942