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I asked this question in the modelling section, but I thought it would be more appropriate here.
My question, what are those poles protuding from the sides for?

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How could you forget me???????? LOL. I would think they were perhaps for torpedo nets or maybe safety nets?
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Going to have to go with nets. Though they could also be used for fishing.
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beaing a german flat top did thip ship ever see action at all???
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I asked this question in the modelling section, but I thought it would be more appropriate here.
My question, what are those poles protuding from the sides for?

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Hello Joe. I can not remember exactly what they where for, but mostly sure they where communications Anteenas. Forget if it was short or long range. When they where up they would get in the way of operations so they where able to move to a horizontal position. AFAIK all nations with carriers had them, though not positive with the RN
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beaing a german flat top did thip ship ever see action at all???
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No krieg, It never saw any action. The ship was launched but never commisioned. I think I heard that the Russians sank it in some tests in the Baltic but the KM isn't really my specialty so maybe someone else can help on that.
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Krieg you may want to check out post #3 in the this thread you created . I posted some links for you on the Graf Zeppelin there.
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December 8, 1938 Launch of the Graf Zeppelin at Deutsche Werk, Kiel, Germany.



December 8, 1938 Launch of the Graf Zeppelin at Deutsche Werk, Kiel, Germany.



December 8, 1938 Launch of the Graf Zeppelin at Deutsche Werk, Kiel, Germany.



December 8, 1938 Launch of the Graf Zeppelin at Deutsche Werk, Kiel, Germany.


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Mike's right, "Antenna Masts" they were. Lowered for flight operations. If you hit them in the lowered position, you were going to crash anyway.
The Hornet (CV-12) lost at least one, (the right-forward) perhaps two in Halsey's typhoon.
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Divers find Hitler's aircraft carrier

The location of the wreck of the Graf Zeppelin had been a mystery for more than half a century



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div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;}POLISH divers have discovered the rusting wreckage of Nazi Germany’s only aircraft carrier, the Graf Zeppelin, solving one of the most enduring maritime riddles of the Second World War. For more than half a century the location of the huge vessel was kept secret by the Soviet authorities. Even the opening of the Moscow archives in the 1990s failed to produce a precise bearing. The once-proud ship was simply one of dozens of wrecks that littered the bed of the Baltic Sea near the Bay of Gdansk.
“We were carrying out soundings for possible oil exploration,” Krzysztof Grabowski, of the Petrobaltic exploration group, said. “Then we stumbled across a vessel that was over 260 metres (850ft) long at a depth of 250 metres.”
Divers confirmed this week that it was the German ship, though who owns her and what — if anything — will happen to her remains unclear.
When the Graf Zeppelin was launched in 1938, Adolf Hitler raised his right arm in salute to a warship that was supposed to help Germany to become master of the northern seas. But, when fleeing German troops scuttled her in April 1945, she had never seen service — a casualty of infighting within the Nazi elite and the changing tide of war.
The Graf Zeppelin was scuttled in shallow water near Szczecin and it proved easy for the Red Army to recover her after marching into the Polish port. According to an agreement with the Allies, German and Japanese warships should have been sunk in deep water or destroyed. The Russians repaired the ship, then used her to carry looted factory equipment back to the Soviet Union. In August 1947 Allied spies observed her being towed back to the Polish Baltic coast and then used for target practice at Leba by Soviet dive bombers. It appeared that the Russians were preparing for possible action against US aircraft carriers.
The Graf Zeppelin sank a second time, and remained undetected until now.
Lukasz Orlicki, a Polish maritime historian, said: “It is difficult to say why the Russians have always been so stubbornly reluctant to talk about the location of the wreck. Perhaps it was the usual obsession with secrecy, or perhaps there was some kind of suspect cargo.”
At 262 metres, the Graf Zeppelin was comparable to the biggest of the US carriers that played such a significant role in the Pacific. She had a range of 8,000 nautical miles, meaning that she could easily have reached the North Sea.

Divers find Hitler's aircraft carrier - Times Online
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