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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

"If I tuck my trousers into my boots I'll look just like a Panzergrenadier!"

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LOL Za.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

You know, its a real b@#%^ when your trouser cuffs get caught in the chain of your bicycle.

That and perhaps having a grenade go off in one LOL.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Abandoned horse drawn equipment Northern France.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

sorry JC but bikes ROCK !

if you can imagine this: a Wehrmact single or 3-speed special from the war in excellent condition would go for ........... yes we are talking big big bucks

i think the german army is the best because they fared as well as they did with horses and cows and bicycles. and i dont thinks the americans had an assault rifle, a jet, or tanks fitted with infra-red night vision sights.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

I wonder what went through the American and British minds when they saw all the horsedrawn stuff.

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From what I have read quite a few were surprised. Especially after hearing all the propaganda about the "Awesome" Wehrmacht. I wonder what the pilots that were doing the strafing thought when they were slaughtering all the horses .

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

You do have to give credit though, those tough men and horses doing what they did against a more advancivly(If thats a word) equiped enemy.

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-Dustin

"Zey send zer hounds! zey to vill find only death!"

And no one is doubting that. That is not the purpose of the thread. Nor has anyone stated so. . But it appears that those who are in awe or has the view that they were "awesome" tend to think so.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

What I find interesting about this picture is that if a US division came on this sight it would have recovered the guns and either put them to use or sent them to a holding site with other captured equipment. Any US division had the resources to do this, yet no German infantry division did; at least not quickly or economically.

Ughhh that is quite a sad photo there, how many hoses was it that died on the German side?

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-Dustin

"Zey send zer hounds! zey to vill find only death!"

I agree. You would think that with the scarcity of weapons at that time the Germans would have put more effort into retreiving them. But with the demodernization of the German military as the war progressed it became harder and harder for them. The Us would not really give the problem a second thought.

US Army Units use of captured German Artilley in Europe

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

"The total number of horses used by the German armed forces during the war is unknown, but losses appear to have totaled about 2.7 million, nearly double the 1.4 million that were lost in World War I. This includes animals killed for food"

From " THE HORSE IN THE GERMAN ARMY IN WWII"

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.