|
|  |
 |
Members: 6,450
Threads: 18,400
Posts: 230,101
Online: 333
Newest Member:
jrhess3 |
|
|
| Weapons in WWII Discussion about the weapons and war machines created during World War Two |
|
View Poll Results: B24 or B17
|
|
B17
|
  
|
11 |
52.38% |
|
B24
|
  
|
10 |
47.62% |

July 23rd, 2008, 09:01 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 153
Salute!: 3
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
B24 or B17
what do you all like better i am a fan both but the B24 had longer range and a hevier payload.
__________________
|

July 23rd, 2008, 09:22 PM
|
 |
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NEPA/Scranton(close enough)
Posts: 1,244
Salute!: 46
Saluted 33 Times in 28 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
I chose the B-17 because my great uncle was a tail gunner.
__________________
"Like so many of our people, we have now had a personal experience of German barbarity which only strengthens the resolution of all of us to fight through to final victory."-King George VI
"Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning."-Colonel David M. Shoup-Saipan
|

July 23rd, 2008, 09:38 PM
|
 |
Kommodore 
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
The Liberator, because history will lean towards the Fortress.
__________________
|

July 23rd, 2008, 09:44 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Birmingham, UK
Posts: 209
Salute!: 4
Saluted 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Can't split them They each had their strengths, which were vital in the Allied programme.
Steve W.
|

July 23rd, 2008, 10:14 PM
|
 |
Acting Wg. Cdr. 
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 9,219
Salute!: 14
Saluted 40 Times in 19 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
It seems unfair to the poor old B-24 ; it's a little like the Spitfire/Hurricane argument.
You just can't deny that the B-17 has a 'look' about it..... 
__________________
"Stand by to pull me out of the seat if I get hit" - Guy Gibson
|

July 23rd, 2008, 10:32 PM
|
 |
Alte Hase 
|
|
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,716
Salute!: 21
Saluted 28 Times in 23 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
both were needed and can be compared to death as witness on armyairforces.com where the vets of both a/c come out and slug it till there is no more..........no-one wins.
they did their job and did it well
|

July 24th, 2008, 01:21 AM
|
 |
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 3rd Rock
Posts: 2,157
Salute!: 33
Saluted 16 Times in 14 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Different yet equal.
Tail Gunner in a 17 eh ?
__________________
There's one way to find out if a man is honest-ask him. If he says "Yes", you know he's a crook. Groucho Marx
|

July 24th, 2008, 01:35 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 153
Salute!: 3
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebatzel
I chose the B-17 because my great uncle was a tail gunner.
|
Did he live trough the war? most tail gunners had a lifespan of 2-4 weeks.
__________________
|

July 24th, 2008, 02:09 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Salute!: 17
Saluted 6 Times in 5 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Really? I'd love to know where you got those figures, they could be useful to me.
|

July 24th, 2008, 02:18 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 117
Salute!: 0
Saluted 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
LANCASTER!!!!!!!
OJ
|

July 24th, 2008, 03:16 AM
|
 |
Alte Hase 
|
|
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,716
Salute!: 21
Saluted 28 Times in 23 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
sorry no bomber command a/c allowed ..........
Mike he was a tail gunner in what period of the war ? from summer of 44 till wars end it may have been the worst manned position on either the 17 or the 24 due to the tail end attacks by the LW
|

July 24th, 2008, 04:55 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Winnipeg - Canada
Posts: 736
Salute!: 0
Saluted 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
I remember reading on the Poelisti (sp?) Oilfield raids and enjoyed the work of the Liberators. Probably gonna give my biased decision to them.
__________________
Time is only enemy you'll never get rid of.
|

July 24th, 2008, 09:32 AM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: cider country
Posts: 300
Salute!: 16
Saluted 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
dear all,
it also depends on the losses of both a/c,which may make some difference.
i also like the b24,because it saved many ball tuuet gunners from being scraped along a runway,if the hydrolics were shot out.
it helped fill the black gap,in the atlantic,very often overlooked.
as mentioned before,it had more range than the b17,and carried more bombs,which afterall was its job.lee.
__________________
fair,balanced and unafraid.thanks,4th wilts.  .
|

July 24th, 2008, 11:23 AM
|
 |
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NEPA/Scranton(close enough)
Posts: 1,244
Salute!: 46
Saluted 33 Times in 28 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Quote:
Originally Posted by german mauser k98k man
Did he live trough the war? most tail gunners had a lifespan of 2-4 weeks.
|
Yes he did live through, though he died a few years before my birth.
This is what I posted in another thread about him. Post #155
Favourite Aircraft of WWII
Quote:
|
I never met got a chance to meet him. He died 3 years before my birth. I only know one story, the one where he should have been killed. I'm not sure when it happened but his best friend in the war came down with a terrible spout of food poisoning the day before an important bombing mission. My Great-Uncle Robert was not scheduled for any missions that day, so he told his friend (Mike was his name) to stay in bed and that he would take his mission for the day in the tail gunners spot. The following week Mike told him "you did me a favor by taking my flight, and now I am going to return the favor. I'll take your spot." When the Planes came back latter in the day his plane was not among them. According to my father, reports from the other pilots that day claimed no parachutes where seen from the crew.
|
__________________
"Like so many of our people, we have now had a personal experience of German barbarity which only strengthens the resolution of all of us to fight through to final victory."-King George VI
"Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning."-Colonel David M. Shoup-Saipan
|

July 24th, 2008, 12:47 PM
|
 |
Ace
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Iron Crosses grow
Posts: 7,849
Salute!: 93
Saluted 75 Times in 55 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
B-24 wins by count of tails 
__________________
"On average it took five Panthers to take out a Sherman. Four would be in a ditch out of fuel or broken down, the fifth one just blows away the Sherman before breaking down." 
|

July 24th, 2008, 08:43 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 310
Salute!: 6
Saluted 7 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Za Rodinu
B-24 wins by count of tails 
|
That will give the equation:
1 x B-24 = 2 x B-17
Does that include the B-17G with the ventral turret...?
Will the B-24 outgun the B-17G in a confrontation?
regards
RAM
|

July 24th, 2008, 08:59 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Windsor UK
Posts: 991
Salute!: 0
Saluted 11 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Of course, it goes without saying really, the B-24 Liberator far out classed the lowly B-17
__________________
|

July 24th, 2008, 09:14 PM
|
 |
Good Ol' Boy 
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Deep in the Heart of Dixie
Posts: 5,325
Salute!: 51
Saluted 48 Times in 41 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Interesting read on the AAF forum on this very subject with good imput from several crew members.
B-24 versus B-17
__________________
Best Regards,
JW
Flag of the State of Alabama
|

July 24th, 2008, 09:23 PM
|
 |
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 6,928
Salute!: 16
Saluted 64 Times in 57 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Both types served as they were meant to and both types ended up in the same place after the war.

__________________
For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.
|

July 24th, 2008, 09:35 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 117
Salute!: 0
Saluted 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
JCF,
One of the MAJOR thrills of 3 trips to the USA was Davis-Monthan AFB and the PIMA Air and Space Museum. I presume this pic is an early one of that area?
OJ
|

July 24th, 2008, 09:38 PM
|
 |
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 6,928
Salute!: 16
Saluted 64 Times in 57 Posts
|
|
Re: B24 or B17
Yep. I have been there a few times in my youth when I lived in AZ in the late 60s to 70's.
__________________
For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.
|
|