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What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb?

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Old January 11th, 2006, 02:10 PM
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I'd be witht the Canadian Highlanders....
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I would most likely serve as a US Marine in WW2. It was easy to fight the Japs. In Guadalcanal the Japs lost 20000 men to the US 1700. The kill ration in the pacific was roughly 1:8 to the US favor. The japs were using the WW1 weapons or even swords in most cases in my famous BANZAI CHARGES. lol stupid japs. The Japs never had any anti-tank weapons. The US forces should also thank the russians for attacking Manchuria. Because after that the Japs surrendered, not because of the A-Bombs but becase they knew they woudl lose their possesions in China to the Russians
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I would go into the Air Force of the Airborne, and would be stationed wherever they put me.
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I would most likely serve as a US Marine in WW2. It was easy to fight the Japs. In Guadalcanal the Japs lost 20000 men to the US 1700. The kill ration in the pacific was roughly 1:8 to the US favor. The japs were using the WW1 weapons or even swords in most cases in my famous BANZAI CHARGES. lol stupid japs. The Japs never had any anti-tank weapons. The US forces should also thank the russians for attacking Manchuria. Because after that the Japs surrendered, not because of the A-Bombs but becase they knew they woudl lose their possesions in China to the Russians
1) It was easy to fight the Japanese? To even suggest this is disrespectful to Japanese and American Veterans of WWII.

2) Never refer to the Japanese as Japs. It is insulting to all Japanese people, and is disrespectful to many US citizens, such as all members of the 442nd (all Japanese) Regimental Combat Team that served against the Germany in Europe. This kind of statement contradicts the respect for veterans rule that can be found here.

I suggest you re-read the guidelines before you post again.
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I would most likely serve as a US Marine in WW2. It was easy to fight the Japs. In Guadalcanal the Japs lost 20000 men to the US 1700. The kill ration in the pacific was roughly 1:8 to the US favor. The japs were using the WW1 weapons or even swords in most cases in my famous BANZAI CHARGES. lol stupid japs. The Japs never had any anti-tank weapons. The US forces should also thank the russians for attacking Manchuria. Because after that the Japs surrendered, not because of the A-Bombs but becase they knew they woudl lose their possesions in China to the Russians
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Your numbers on Guadalcanal are close, 1592 US Marines and Army killed to approx 14,800 Japanese killed in action or missing with another approx 9000 dead of disease or starvation. However they do not take into account those airmen or sailors from three different air forces or navies that fought there also. Add these in and the numbers on both sides jump dramatically, 7,100 Allied and 30,343 Japanese (numbers from Richard Franks Guadalcanal pg614). Going back to an earlier post of yours regarding the Japanese navy, during this campaign counting for all naval battles, both navies lost 24 warships (Japanese 2 BB's, 1 CVL, 3 CA's, 1 CL, 11 DD's and 6 Subs to the Allies 2 CV's, 6 CA's, 2 CL's, 14 DD's). A junior infantry officer of many south Pacific campaigns wrote of the Japanese, "...most of us who have fought in the Pacific are ready to admit here and now, away from all the convincing firsthand evidence we have seen - mass starvation, untold suffering, shell shock, cannibalism, mass suicide - that for sheer, bloody, hardened steel guts, the stocky and hard muscled little Jap doughboy has it all over any of us."
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That is an excellent quote Bill. I think that the Japanese were an excellent fighting force. They were well disciplined if not supplied with the most technologically advanced weapons of the period. They fought and fought and even if the ratio of casualties was not in their favor the men who lost their comrades to them surely held them in more respect then the posters that portrayed them as little near-sighted people who could not stand up to the big strong Americans.
Our fighting men won the battles, occupied the territory and gave their lives to conquer the Pacific territories. It was our logistics that really won the war. Our superiority in the air and on the ocean allowed us to put overwhelming amounts of ordinance onto the beaches and the strong points of the Japanese. Our tanks and aircraft supporting the ground troops. Don't forget the medical resources provided either. That is one of the big reasons why our men were able to succeed with so few casualties. The fighting men of the Japanese forces were well trained formidable adversaries. Thank God we could out produce them and that we won the Battle of Midway.
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The Japanese were very formidable oponents, and deserve our repect.
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I'd volunteer for the Ostfront. Caucausus campaign. Gebirgsjäger division.
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If I had my choice of assignments it would be as a lowly buck-sergeant over a rifle squad in 1st Battalion, Able Co., U.S. 30th Infantry Regiment within the U.S. 3rd Infantry Division. THE most combat hardened division in the Mediterranean or European Theatres of Operation.

Yep, it'd definitely be the 3rd Inf. Division. The division with the most days in combat, CMH recipients and casualties due to being the U.S. Army's universal guinea pigs! Everything new and upcoming was practically always tried first with the 3rd Inf. Division.

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Having read this Long and aged thread I'm discarding my instinctive cowardice and the temptation of flogging wristwatches to GIs at the Windmill to sign up alongside TheRedBaron in the Womens Auxillary Balloon Corps.

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Ordnance unit in Britain dealing with UXB's just you and the bomb.
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Seems like there was a TV series in the 60's about UXB units in Britain either during or after the war. That maybe before your time but maybe some senior citizen may recall the name of the show and you can get on DVD.

In the late 1950's a B-47 accidently dropped a nuke off Flordia and they never found it. You could get a sponser and go to Flordia and defuse it and full fill you dreams.
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 01:28 AM
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In the late 1950's a B-47 accidently dropped a nuke off Flordia and they never found it.
TA152 the one your talking about was dropped off the coast of Savannah, Georgia where I live. It was lost but, they finally found it last year. Its about 12 miles off shore. The good thing is, is that they did a study of the weapon and whether or not it was a danger. They discovered that it is not any danger to the coast of Georgia or the individuals living in the area. I think there is a plan in the future to bring it up and diffuse the device, or at least they said in the news here.

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since this thread was started some time ago, I've thought about my previous statements abit, with the conclusion nothing at all really sounds good except to be on the home front, although the Ta 152H-1 would of been an interesting and quite fast prop job to fly, liking to fly at nearly 500mph and hitting close to 50,000 feet upwards, exploding off the airfield almost like in a high speed chase with your head drilled back into the cockpit seat protector ..........

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Seems like there was a TV series in the 60's about UXB units in Britain either during or after the war. That maybe before your time but maybe some senior citizen may recall the name of the show and you can get on DVD.
TA, Was it this? DANGER UXB

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Thank you for the new information Marne. I missed that on the news. I have a B-47 book that told about it but I got the wrong state !

Richard, the story is the same as what you posted but it was in the early 60's and in black and white. I think it was a British series but it could have been American. Too many years ago to remember the details.
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Ive changed my mind from all the places Ive posted on this or like minded threads...i'll take a posting to Shetland Isles please somewhere quiet to fish
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Chasing a balloon bomb in Oregon off or Chasing a u-boat in the Fla straights with a certain writer.
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since this thread was started some time ago, I've thought about my previous statements abit, with the conclusion nothing at all really sounds good except to be on the home front, although the Ta 152H-1 would of been an interesting and quite fast prop job to fly, liking to fly at nearly 500mph and hitting close to 50,000 feet upwards, exploding off the airfield almost like in a high speed chase with your head drilled back into the cockpit seat protector ..........

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Old September 16th, 2006, 07:51 PM
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What was the better fighter p51-d or the ta 152h
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i think i would plump for north africa, there it was a 'clean war' if you could ever sall war that, most of it was fought out in the desert so that there was much less 'collateral damage' as the americans call it, in the desert warfare it was you against the enemy and the terrain. the chances of mass civilian casualties was reduced to the battles in and around the cities and towns but most of the fighting was done out 'on the blue'.

In britain the bomb disposal squads also had a large number of concientious objectors who served with it diarming the bombs, they objected to the taking of life but would disarm bombs as to them it was a way of stopping the death by war. many died but others were decorated for there bravery, one said that people would be confused by the ncc (non combatent corp) patch on his shoulder above the bomb flash for bomb disposal.
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