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October 16th, 2002, 09:32 PM
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Cool! Hey, maybe I could come down and fly it....
.....All the way back home!  
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I knew a guy who served in the Navy in the Carribbean Sea during WWII and he had a good time with the girls in Cuba and did not get shot at. My type of war!
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Wastn't the Red Baron in the First World War???
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October 17th, 2002, 09:08 PM
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If I knew I could get through, combat medic for the 47th Inf. Rgt., 9th Div., from North Africa all the way through...kinda follow my uncle around. That's a pure fantasy situation though. If I honestly went back, as a draftee, in the US aircorps, patrolling the Carribean for German subs. Yep, I'm a weenie.
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October 17th, 2002, 10:18 PM
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Sommecourt--yep--a "Richthoffen" was the Commander of a Luftflotte on the Eastern Front. I cant remember if it was Manfreds Brother or Cousin--he is Wolfram v. Richthoffen.
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October 17th, 2002, 10:46 PM
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Welcome to the forums TA152! I was kinda suprised that you didn't want to fly in a Ta.152 though.
About that name..........
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Welcome to the Forum Ta-152!!! We hope you enjoy yourself here and also hope to see many posts from you! And please; would you choose being a Ta-152 pilot so you can shoot down Mustang in his Mustang? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I would be a Wehrmacht Generalfeldmarschall of course, there are some 20 American divisions to encircle and destroy with a Kesselschlacht over there. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Of course a "Pour le Mérite", Knight's Cross of the Royal House of Hohenzollern and Knight's Cross with Oakleaves and Swords recipient...
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October 18th, 2002, 02:18 AM
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I forgot to tell, but field marshall Wolfram von Richthofen was cousin of baron Manfred von Richthofen, scored 8 victories during WWI. And Manfred's brother, Lothar von Richthofen was also a pilot during WWI and scored 40 victories. The two brothers were Pour le Mérite reci`pients.
Lothar von Richthofen (1894-1922)
Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen (1895-1945)
Manfred Albrecht Baron von Richthofen (1892-1918)
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October 18th, 2002, 02:19 PM
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Great pics!
I agree that being stationed in Cuba and entertaining all the ladies would a fine choice! That is why the military calls it a "dream sheet!"
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October 18th, 2002, 09:14 PM
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Friedrich--great shots of the von Richthoffen trio.
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October 18th, 2002, 09:23 PM
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And what do you say about field marshall Friedrich von Hammerstein bla, bla... being awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oakleaves and Swords for surrounding and destroying 20 American divisions? 
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October 18th, 2002, 09:45 PM
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No such luck--unless these "Ami" Divisions were on the Easteern Front. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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October 19th, 2002, 06:17 PM
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german u-boot waffe or serving in kriegs
marine on Panzerschiff Admiral Graf Spee
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October 19th, 2002, 09:09 PM
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Nice photos Mein General; the Red Baron's crash site is not far from my home here in France. I often pass it on my way to work in that area.
I came across the cousin in WW2 during some research into Italy; although I can't remember in what capacity?
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October 20th, 2002, 04:43 PM
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No, Carl. I meant 20 divisions in the Western Front after they have advanced deep into France and have met any German soldier... It is time for Von Runstedt, Rommel and myself to teach the bloody yanks how beautiful a German Kesselschlacht is. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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October 20th, 2002, 08:17 PM
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Thing is, is that the Western Allies were never in such huge numbers--ever caught in a Kessleschlacht--unlike the Russians and Germans on the Eastern Front [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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October 20th, 2002, 08:19 PM
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I forgot one thing--I will change my mind and decide to serve with the USA--and Bob Hops troop a laugh a minute.
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I would probably go serve Finland, I have great resect for this country and for the finnish people who fought back the russian juggernaut. I am a finnish neighbour(estonia) and I wish that my people would have been as brave as the finns and fought back. If I had lived in that time I would have voulenteered for the finnish army.
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I would probabely serve in the unit that waited for me behind the recruiment office. Not much of a choice was offered to the majority of men who served.
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My dream is a russian footsoldier in Stalingrad,early autmn 1942.
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German, Probably a panzer Division, maybe the 21st, so I could see action in both N Africa and the Western Front (The rest of ya can serve on the Eastern Front!).
Brits, I guess the 7th Armoured, for much the same reasons as above, but I'm pretty sure I would have been pissed off at the little pop guns in the tanks.
American, Carrier fighter pilot, Enterprise.
Soviet, Deserter....running as far away from the NKVD as possible.
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Quote:
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German, Probably a panzer Division, maybe the 21st, so I could see action in both N Africa and the Western Front (The rest of ya can serve on the Eastern Front!).
Brits, I guess the 7th Armoured, for much the same reasons as above, but I'm pretty sure I would have been pissed off at the little pop guns in the tanks.
American, Carrier fighter pilot, Enterprise.
Soviet, Deserter....running as far away from the NKVD as possible.
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Why do you all make it sound like war is some sort of organized holiday instead of something terrible?
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As far as I know the 21 panzer division actually saw action on the eastern front.
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As far as I know the 21 panzer division actually saw action on the eastern front.
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Nope, they were in the west all along. But hey, if they had been send to the east you could allways have stayed in your hotel and skip the guided tours there
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21.Panzer-Division
8.41 DAK - - Libya
9.41 - 10.42 DAK Pz.Grp.Afrika - Libya
11.42 - 1.43 DAK Deut-Ital.Pz.Armee - Libya
2.43 - 5.43 - 5. Pz. Armee Afrika Tunisia
7.43 - 12.43 forming - D Rennes
1.44 - 4.44 reserve - D France (4.44 Hungary)
5.44 reserve - D France again
6.44 I. SS 7. Armee D Normandy
7.44 - Panzergruppe West D Normandy
8.44 no data
9.44 - 10.44 XXXXVII 5. Pz. Armee G Lothringen
11.44 LXIV 19. Armee G Lothringen
12.44 LXXXII 1. Armee G Saarpfalz
1.45 reserve 1. Armee G Saarpfalz
2.45 Friedrich 4. Pz. Armee Mitte Oder
3.45 Gross Deutschland 4. Pz. Armee Mitte Oder
4.45 rerserve OKH Mitte East
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer21p.html
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