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| What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb? |

February 23rd, 2003, 12:18 PM
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I was just wondering what would have happened if German´s had managed to take Moscow...and Stalin with it?
What do you think Hitler would have done to him? hanged him? Kept in prison forever? Or would Stalin have stayed in Moscow until the end?
I myself believe that Stalin would have escaped and begun the battles from a HQ probably behind the Urals, or maybe somwhere closer. But as he had the factories in safe and lend lease was pouring, he would have good reasons to continue fighting.

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February 23rd, 2003, 12:35 PM
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In fact, a lot of people surrounding Stalin fled Moscow. But Stalin himself didn’t leave the city.
So he stayed and was captured by the Germans. Or maybe he killed himself.
Probably A.H. ordered the SS to capture Stalin so that he could be hanged in public.
And without Stalin and Moscow, Russia would surrender.
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February 24th, 2003, 06:39 AM
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What? No more opinions on this?? Well, ok , but I hoped there would be some different opinions on what would have happened if Stalin was caught..tabula rasa??

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February 24th, 2003, 12:14 PM
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I'd have to go with the flow here...
I don't think Stalin would have fled Moscow, I think he would have stayed to show "support".
If Moscow was taken, I have a feeling that Hitler would have had Stalin killed almost immediately. It's hard to say what use Stalin would have been, so there would be no need for him to be kept alive.
Just some thoughts....
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February 24th, 2003, 03:28 PM
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I think Stalin would have left at the last minute and continued the fight. Had he been captured, I agree with Erwin, the war would have ended. The people would have joined with the Germans until they discovered the Nazi plans for their future. Had Germany taken the path of liberation, they could have achieved all that they wanted. But NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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February 26th, 2003, 12:00 AM
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I dont think the Soviets would surrender until Germans were Atleast in the Urals and Caucasians, and Stalin would have fled, he was not a stupid man, also, what if Moscow was captured in 41, anyone think that would be a earlier Stalingrad.
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February 28th, 2003, 10:45 PM
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Moscow was critical to the Soviet war effort. Besides being a major rail center, and the connection between Soviet forces fighting in the north and south, it was the capital. A loss here would have been devastating to the Russians, but perhaps not a TKO if Stalin could escape to the Urals.
Had Stalin been captured, he would have found a way to commit suicide, much like Himmler after the war ended.
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March 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM
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I think that Stalin would have left the city after the situation became unbearable and if not, he would not have allowed being taken prissoner. It would have been like Hitler in Berlin in 1945. Without Stalin, the Soviet government would have collapsed and without Moscow, the strategic situation would have collapsed too...
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