If Churchill had not been around during April 1940 onwards, would the British have caved in to Hitler? Would the US have inevitably entered into war with Germany? Could Russia have resisted a one-front war? Would the US and Commonwealth countries have supported Germany rather than communist Russia, even if only on a diplomatic level with a neutral stance?

He did get hit by a taxi in new york in the thirties...

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A bus? This is good stuff, Ive never seen this on the forums before, I knew the Germans had big gun duels with our guys around Dover from France, but I didnt know they were firing red busses over at the time..Can Kai or someone with the internet time look into this one....Blimey we could have followed suit here and in 44 from Antwerp fired a Bratwurst field kitchen at Hitler instead of dropping the odd Tallboy or whatever....Errr..sorry...humour...

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You mean you've never seen the Picture Post photo of the result of the one and only firing of Germany's top secret weapon?
Haven't you seen that pic of the double-decker bus lying on its side in a bomb crater on Oxford Street? This is often captioned as being taken during the Blitz, but in fact was the result of the Krupp's heavy gun designed to fire busses over the Channel. There were problems with the Sabot used to fit the bus to the rifling in the barrel, which would have proved insurmountable if the weapon hadn't been destroyed in a secret raid by Commandos a few weeks later. Thank God!

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And here it is....

http://www.balham.com/pages/histimages/image17.htm

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Welcome back again, Urqh!

Now, without Churchill I see a Great Britain with low-morale and with a tremendous lack of effective leadership, but not a defeated Britain.

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Thanks Friedrich, good to see the forum retaining its sense of humour...

I actually think Britian without Churchill in May/June 1940 would be a defeated Britain. We should take nothing from the man, not one of my favourite peacetime politico's but history called and he answered. Without him, Halifax would have been top man, and it wouldnt matter if what the bravery or fortitude of the British people was..in my view without Churchill and probably Halifax in Charge there would have been no island base for liberation of Europe in the future.

By the way, Historian, can you shed any light on the Chamberlain secret code that he announced after start of ww2, where he said Hitler had missed the bus....was this in fact code for our attempt at trying to hit him with a double decker Munich tram???

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Exactly right, Urgh!
Unfortunately, the tram failed to meet the projected muzzle velocity and was quietly shelved..............

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Gordon

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Most likely with Rudolf Hess as Generalgouverneur and Edmund Mosley as ambassador to Japan. Brrrrr!

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Actually, yes I think a role would have been found for Mosley amongst others, there were many that would at the time have considered an understanding with Germany at the time.

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