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What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb?

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Old March 30th, 2005, 02:31 AM
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What would of occured if the allies won in Market Garden?

Would the Allies allocate more resources to Montgomery and his army rather than Patton?

Would there be a Battle of the Bulge?

Would there have been a Saar Campaign?

Where would the Allies of attacked in Germany first, northern, ruhr, rhine?
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Old March 30th, 2005, 03:13 PM
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Tricky one...I´ll try to answer a couple of questions

1. If Monty had reached The Rhine and gotten forces over the river the operation would have been called a succes, otherwise not.Maybe then he could have gotten Ike´s attention to attack past the West Wall and into the German heart, the Ruhr. However, I fear that even then Bradley and Patton would have one way or the other forced Ike into their own plan and Monty would not have gotten the units he´d have needed to continue his plan. Personally I like Monty´s idea of going past the West wall, that´s what the Germans did with the Maginot line in 1940.

2. There would be the battle of the Bulge. Hitler had decided of a counter attack in August-September 1944 for later that year and the plan was sent to the Generals with a sign on it "Not to be changed".

3. The main idea is to get to the Ruhr. It might be too dangerous but I´d think that going in from the north AND south would surround the German troops in the West wall. However the Germans would not give in without a fight and also the troops would be forced to try to do two things at the same time; get to the Ruhr and force the trapped German forces surrender. I´m not sure if the allied had that much man and armor power to be used at the time.
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At least Holland would have been liberated and millions would have been spared to live trough the infamous Hunger-winter that killed thousands.

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