Because occasionally some parts of the discussion do interest me. When arguments are well presented I do enjoy the discussion. When it looks to me like making the Nazis vicariously win by impossible means (like the famous discussion on the Ju52 ability to fly to Iceland and back) then it does become too much for me Possible variations from actual facts is one thing, the Twilight Dimension is quite another.

And I do hate the Simpsons, hate Chuck Norris films, hate Steven Seagall films, but like the first Rambo film (the others are total crap)

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Provide any data to support this please.

You speak as though the US wanted this role. First we are ridiculed for being isolationist (following 160 years example of this) and when we fill a void, created by a weakened Europe, now we are ridiculed for being too involved in world affairs.

In what ways? Undefended borders to the north and south. Directly responsible for changing the ruling habits of several large totalitarian governments and not conquering them to do it? Everybody eating hamburgers and wearing blue jeans? I'll guess that Mr. Joe Average American doesn't want to go overseas and see the US recreated, no more than I want to travel 250 miles and see my hometown all over again

Tell us how you really feel about the United States of America, you're sugar-coating your thoughts too much.

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Believe it or not, I've never seen any of those films or shows.

There are plenty posts that are interesting to read besides the numerous what ifs. I read most every post, but comment on very few of the what ifs. Most are just not provable either way and just seem to stir up people way out of proportion to the viability of the supposition.

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JW

You should, they are real character builders. You see one and you swear you will always avoid that role model

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Oh they're just jealous of us....

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Coir a glaive

Nemo me impune lacessit

Look all around you! The infrastructure of this country is falling apart.

Bridges collapsing due to rot, cities drowning (New Orleans) and not nearly enough being done to prevent another round from happening again.

But check the health of high-tech wonder weapon companies such as Boeing, Hughes and Douglas.

Priorities are upside down!

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"Who will save your soul, if you won't save your own." - Jewel

He used WWI (the Great War) as a benchmark. I would hardly think that the US was known as a great military spender during the 1930s, when in 1940 nearly every country in world had a larger military than did the US and spent more on those militaries than did the the US.

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You are going to hell!!

Thank the commander and chief for that

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Now I won't feel as bad when I do it ... or have I already....

The western allies had supperior resouces, superior economies, superior numbers, superior logistcs, and superior production. The postion was also such that the Soviets could not seriously threaten any of the above. The only item that comes into question is moral/motivation and that area is highly dependent on how the war starts and how it runs.
1) It is the British Commonwealth. If Britains in it's doubtfull that the rest of the commonwealth isn't.
2) They were part of the "Western Alles" and so are included.
Soviet raiders in particular submarines could have been something of a pain. Taking all the Soviet Pacific ports eliminates them from large areas and frees up resources that might have been devoted to anti rader activities.

My only quibble with this is in my reading Stalin was very much into practicality. He understood that the Soviets couldn't take the world at that time so he was content to secure what he had and limit expansion to areas that wouldn't result in a war that he might not win. So the "stay at home" philosophy may have been as much to temper the hot heads as an actual believe. Afterall giving them all the Trotsky treatment is not necessarily the best idea.
I am assuming that some Soviet ships were in the Pacific and could have been fitted out as commerce raiders. Not sure about the sub situation. If you know more PLS share.

You can compair potentials. If someone postulates a detailed what if then there may be enough data to postulate whether it's reasonable and/or where it leads. Nebulous a takes on b doesn't cut it however. In this case it looks to me like whoever is the aggressor gets a plus for initial surprise but a minus for moral unless the war goes very well very quickly which I don't see happening for either side. There are also tremendous time variables unframed: does this hypothetical conflict start while the war is still going on? Right after VE day? Sometime in the summer of 45? or the fall? or winter? or 46? ....
You forgot to add before dominating the world to the last sentance. At least this was the stated goal. Whether or not people believed it was possible or what time frame they believed it was possible in are other questions.
It's not that the variable is written off it's that it is undefined. You can as I stated talk military potential without it. Actually putting together a coherent what if would require defining a lot more interrelated variables that could potentially have a radical effect on the outcome.
The US already had supply lines that spanned the globe where are they going to find these "near impossible distances". The USSR would likely have had more problems with its supply lines due at least in part to allied strategic air but also limited logistic vehicles and routes.
The US army was in the Pacific also Even tank armies aren't going to fair well if they are in range of US naval gunfire. Again what happens depends on when the scenario starts. My impression is prior to June of 44 the Soviet presence in the far east was rather small. Even afterwards it wasn't huge. If the Soviets try to defend the far east they have to tie up a lot of troops as the US can land in numerous locations or move through China. In some cases and times they might have to go through the Japanese or the Chinese communist but that's doable.

In 1945, the Red Army in Europe was the largest show of force that man has ever seen.

"By the end of World War II, the Soviet Union had a standing army of 10 to 13 million men. Undoubtedly, during the war, the Red Army was by far more powerful than any other country." ( wiki source )

At the same time, the allies had 95 divisions in Europe.

Superior logistics? US supply line would have been over 4 thousand miles long.

The war against the communists in Vietnam is a clear example of how casualties in a prolonged war thousands of miles away can reduce all of the above ( superior resources, economies and production ) to simply irrelevant.

I am also using only the US, as the rest of the Western Europe was in simply no shape to fight anyone.

Stefan has addressed this already

This is something new, I am arguing against the Soviets and you for them......

The soviet navy practically didnt exist as priorities went to the ground.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Over 1.5 million men, thats more then several times the size of US presence in the Pacific

Numerous landings? Walking through China?

It would seem that it would be harder for the US to advance and support "numerous fronts" then it would be for the SU to defend.

By the way what would the Chinese be doing when the US troops are just walking through?

I could take a guess, but then again all one would have to do is look at the Korean war

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

It's another way to look at it. Grandiose aims were to be avoided, only small steps would be taken to minimise risk.

Here I can't agree. How long do you believe this would last against the US Pacific Fleet? Besides, the Soviet navy was not exactly renowned for its competence or proficiency.

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