Omaha beach

Richard · #1 (**permalink**) June 6th, 2006, 08:46 AM

What would have happen if the tanks had made it to the beach, what kind of outcome would have happen?

Kai-Petri · #2 (**permalink**) June 6th, 2006, 12:55 PM

http://www.ww2forums.com/cgi-bin/ubb...;f=15;t=001048

Check also for info....

Miller · #3 (**permalink**) June 6th, 2006, 02:20 PM

Eventually, I think we would have broken through, but we would have come out of it with significantly larger casualties.

Machine Gun Nest 1985. · #4 (**permalink**) June 6th, 2006, 03:02 PM

thought of a few quetions

Could a allied failure at Omaha beach still put a end to the Germans on the western front.?

Regarding the 2nd post link from Kai were the ideas on the german side to cut the beaches apart include the use of the mobile reserves.? that kept back by Hitlers generals.

Kai-Petri · #5 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 09:14 AM

If the Germans had got the beaches with the Mulberries out of action then the invasion would have been a failure, I think.

Wasn´t Omaha one of them although the Mulberry was destroyed due to a storm a couple of weeks later? What was the other beach with Mulberry harbor structure?

Richard · #6 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 10:39 AM

I raised the question after watching a documentary about why out of 29 Sherman DD Tanks, 27 of them were lost before they arrived on the beach. One of the veterans believed if those tanks had made to the beach the result would had be a different out come that day.

The documentary was about the 741st Tank Company, the reason why they failed was more to do with navigation error, they turned into the wrong direction resulting in swamping from sea water. If they kept straight a good percentage would have made it to the beach.

Marc · #7 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 11:48 AM

It would be a disaster

JTF-2 · #8 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 11:26 PM

I thought they lost the tanks, because they let them out of the LVT's to early?

Richard · #9 (**permalink**) June 8th, 2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by JTF-2:
I thought they lost the tanks, because they let them out of the LVT's to early?

An order was given not to release them but was not rec'd, the reason they lost the tanks was by navigation error as the tanks were moving forward they changed course heading towards a land mark. The result of this they came in direct contact with a strong tide which swamped them.

In the documentary the under sea divers found all the tanks were pointing in the wrong direction, had they stayed on course a percentage of them would have made it to the shore. I shall try and post the name of the documentary.

Richard · #10 (**permalink**) June 8th, 2006, 04:26 PM

The Programme was called.

JOURNEYS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
D-DAY THE UNTOLD STORY

JTF-2 · #11 (**permalink**) June 8th, 2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Richard42:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JTF-2:
I thought they lost the tanks, because they let them out of the LVT's to early?

An order was given not to release them but was not rec'd,

</font>[/quote]So your saying that THEY were released to early? So that order never being recieved, and the fact that they were going in the wrong direction is what happened?

Richard · #12 (**permalink**) June 8th, 2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by JTF-2:
So your saying that THEY were released to early?

According to the documentary there was some concern about the choppy waters.

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Originally posted by JTF-2:
So that order never being recieved, and the fact that they were going in the wrong direction is what happened?

Based on the angle of the sunken tanks they were facing towards a church steeple, I think. This landmark was used by the DD Tanks on the UTAH Beach. The outcome was an unfortunate error which resulted in loosing 27 tanks. The gentleman who was researching this story was an ex-U.S army man who was involved in tanks, I forget his role may have been a driver. Anyway very interesting documentary if anyone gets the chance to watch do so.