Is this where you hide when not on THC? LOL

History does show that gun control doesn't work, criminals will always have them......Ha Ha you should see what crack shots my pals 10 and 13 year olds are on the range......never mind the fact that, back in better days, especially in the forties most families had firearms and actively put food on the table with them rather than hittin the supermarket.

I agree, this thread is going no where and not realistic in its premiss.

Too much Rote Dawn I think for someone

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Stefan,
I'm not sure, judging by this comment, that you have any idea of the numbers of military-grade small arms and other high powered semi and full automatic rifles there are in the hands of private citizens here in the US.

I would have to borrow nothing from my father as would most anyone else I know. The thousand rounds of 7.62x39 I bought last Autumn will go very far, not counting the case of 000 Buck and the couple of boxes of slugs sitting beside them. While my example is purely anecdotal, there are many others who are far more armed than I am and these in-home arsenals are repeated hundreds of thousand times over throughout the US.

We have a precedent that armed indvidual citizens can defeat a standing army.

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Slip, but that doesn't account for air power, armour, tactics and strategy, not to mention the fact we are assuming that the regular army (containing most of the younger male population) has already been defeated before it becomes a geurilla war. Plus whatever the state of civilian ownership of military grade firearms is now, (genuine question) what was it like in say 1945?

I guess I just don't have much faith in the system, to each his own eh?

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Valid points.

I guess I am thinking how unlikely that a foreign nation would be able to put those types of equipment on the ground here, at least in the last 100 years.
I wonder if, by the time agressor nations were able to defeat the US armed forces, what arms would they have left? Not conjecture for further discussion as we would have no way of determinging that, just "thinking out loud" on my part.

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Incidentally, does anyone have any stats on what ownership of military grade weapons by civilians in the US was like in 1945?

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A civilian version of the BAR was manufactored and sold in the US until 1986.

I can't find numbers on how many are owned by non-law enforcement civilians, then or now. (editorial-regardless of what police and sheriff departments may think and say on TV, everyone not active in the military is a civilian, including them.)

There is no telling how many SKSs are in the US, I would venture several, several hundred thousands. I used to see them stacked high and wide for sale at gun shows. (yes, I know, I'm not answering your question.)

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No, just making me jealous.

I'll make sure I take loads of pics on my gunnery course, pounding away on a 30mm cannon

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I take it your referring to a Axis/German invasion of America? I would like to think the Nazis would have used V-2 rockets on New York to break the spirits of Americans and gone up through Great Britain then down from Canada into America.

You definatly have a grudge against UK.

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Hey it worked well with the Volksturm

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They have a better chance of building the Tiger in 41' which can swim!

I dont mean to be a pest, but unless you even attempt to more thoroughly explain such a mind boggling notion, im afraid you will get the same reaction from most of our members here.

Example: The Russians were the first to develope and ICBM, the R-7 Semyorka more then a decade after the end of the war, during peace time and with all that she needed.... How is it that Germany ( with all of her shortages ) was going to create such a weapon in less then 3 years during a war which it was loosing??

Not to mention some how getting to canada after Britain........

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Well, to be quite honest with you, I've never given it much thought as I have always thought the idea well beyond the realm of possiblity, considering that the Germans lost a considerable portion of their fleet taking Norway, were unable to cross the English Channel and their partners, Italians were unable to control the Med Sea.

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There is a precedent of armed civilians beating the crap out of a industrialized nation (despite a 1:4 kill ratio or so). It's known today as Vietnam.

As for firearm statistics...this is for 1994, not 1945, but it shows something about the USA.

-44 million civilians own 192 million firearms

-65 million of those firearms are handguns

That was just enough guns to arm every single adult in the USA, and is ever so slightly more than the firepower of the French Resistance or the Volkssturm combined.

By the way, the Volkssturm didn't work because they knew that the war was lost. Most civilian Germans simply did not want to die for a lost cause. Now, if you have a cause to fight for...well, there are plenty of examples of that.

Oh my Lord ! ! ! ! ! ! ! that is the the MOST AWESOME picture I have ever seen ! ! ! ! seriously what is that from ! ! ? ? If only eh.

I would have thought the ratio to be even greater, unless you are also counting ARVN casualties.

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Wanna buy some ARVN rifles? Never been fired, only dropped once.

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V2 which lacked the range and (as demonstrated in london) the ability to break morale?

Gone through Britain? Because of course the UK is so much closer that it would make a real difference!