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What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb?

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Old July 14th, 2007, 01:21 PM
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How do you think the Centurian tank would of done against the German Panther , Tigers 1 & king tiger , if the British had them in 1944
would the out come of operation Goodwood been any different ?
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Just from memory, I don't think it was a matter of tanks at Goodwood,but the mine fields and bridges that bottled up the Allied armor. The proceeding 1000 plane bombardment did a lot of the German armor in.
They still faced the 88 flak guns hidden. Limited infantry support meant the Germans could drill any tank with a panzerfaust.
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Just from memory, I don't think it was a matter of tanks at Goodwood,but the mine fields and bridges that bottled up the Allied armor. The proceeding 1000 plane bombardment did a lot of the German armor in.
They still faced the 88 flak guns hidden. Limited infantry support meant the Germans could drill any tank with a panzerfaust.
From what ive read the 88mm guns were the main problem
Picking of the tanks before there guns were in range
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Starting with the easy part; Goodwood. The Centurian would have made no difference to the outcome. Monty's plan for that operation, like every major offensive he undertook on the continent was a set piece one to occur on a narrow front. Goodwood faced bigger problems due to its narrow frontage of operations that put alot of pressure on the British to maintain their flanks against counterattacks as they advanced. This in turn greatly weakened the number of available troops to continue to push forward into the German lines.
In such a setting any tank would have been in trouble.

In tank-on-tank operations:

Against the Panther the Centurian would have had an advantage. The Panther is extremely vulnerable from the flank and rear. With its slower turret traverse it is also likely not to be first on target much of the time.

Against a Tiger I the two are more evenly matched with a slight advantage to the Centurian.

Against a Tiger II the Centurian on the offensive would be at a disadvantage while it would have the advantage on the defense.

That's the short version.
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That's if the KT's haven't broken down on the way, something the Centurion would be very unlikely to do.


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