What if I didnt reply in the thread where these are from

[PzJgr]

Originally Posted by Slipdigit

Sorta, except that we now don't consider ourselves to be seperate countries, except for Texas, which was before 1845 and joined the US by treaty. Just consider the name of the country, United States of America and how the nation was formed. Each of the 13 original states more less considered themselves to be seperate nations with a common need. We fought a war over this issue (among others) in 1861.

Each state theorectically governs its area with the feds handling the international aspects of national government. Local law enforcement, schooling (K-12 and colleges), criminal and civil courts are the responsibibilty of the states. Issued that affect multiple states are governed by the Feds, such as interstate commerce, national defense and disputes between states. The nature of our national govenment has changed significantly, especially since 1913, when the US Senators no longer were chosen by the state legislatures. Before that, the Senators were to look after the needs of the govenments of the states they represented, with House of Reprehensibles representing the needs of the people themselves of the state. As a result of the 17th Amendment, they no longer were beholding to the needs of the state govenments and the power and spending habits of the federal government has up unbelievably since then as Federalism * has been damaged greatly.

*This article will explain our method of government better than I have here, if you are in the mood to read.

Good find Slipdigit. I was trying to find a site that would explain it in simple terms but alas, failed in that attempt.

[Sloniksp]

Originally Posted by tikilal

Why?

Originally Posted by Slipdigit

Slava, don't regret learning about the idiosyncrasies of our fair land, as different as they may seem.

I was just joking........


I understood everything both of you fine gentlemen said

I guess what I was trying to point out was while it may not be the federal govt. priority to supply the funding of the levee's, taking away from the funding doesnt do much help either...

[tikilal]

Point taken.

[Roddoss72]

Originally Posted by tikilal

Better yet imagine if the Government spent only what it needed to and didn’t take the rest from the American people.

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I love how people can in the same breath complain about how horrible the government handles things and then ask them to handle more. If you think that other people know what is best for you and want them to take care of you check yourself into an assisted living center. The Constitution was set up trying to balance the need for Central order and the need to protect the liberties and rights of the people. But here is the best part I get to vote for the people that make these decisions. When I don’t like what they are doing they hear about it from me. And I tell them in no uncertain terms what I think and want. I then in reply get a letter thanking me for my concern and then try to explain why they do what they do. Then I mention this little know and used item called “RECALL”. Man I love my government.

The basic question that every person in the world needs to ask themselves is this: Do I want to be responsible for myself? Well do you?

Oh i see, and what if by some circumstance say a government (America)sends meto Iraq and i happen to get injured and need expensive rehabilitation and after initial treatment turns around and says sorry mate we ain't gonna help, but wait isn't that happening now with several thousand wounded servicemen now needing expensive rehabilitation and are not getting it and are being left out to fend for themselves, oh and if Iraq is so important then why at this point in time not one Federal Member of Congress or the Senate has any adult child serving in Iraq. And to finish of what happened in Ward 9 in New Orleans was pure racial genocide, imagine those folks being white Anglo-Saxons and Republican Voters instead of being African American Democrat voters one wonders.

[Herr Oberst]

Originally Posted by tikilal

News: I do not know that CNN or the NY Times "make up stories" they may mislead you, or falsify parts but the whole story... I find it hard to believe. Now one thing I know goes on even with the AP is picture fraud. A photographer will go to an event and place people and things to get the shot he wanted, I saw the examples of this from Gaza during the Hamas problems a while ago, the same people were in every picture and in one the guy is dead and the next he is angry at someone else and then next he is sad, and mid you that the time stamps are on these so unless someone is bring people back to life, someone else is lying.

People and editors were fired, look it up. It is documented. Just like the time magazine cover about global cooling. It's all there look it up. But then again we have people who get all their news from ABC NBC CBS amd are ill informed.

Originally Posted by Roddoss72

Oh i see, and what if by some circumstance say a government (America)sends meto Iraq and i happen to get injured and need expensive rehabilitation and after initial treatment turns around and says sorry mate we ain't gonna help, but wait isn't that happening now with several thousand wounded servicemen now needing expensive rehabilitation and are not getting it and are being left out to fend for themselves, oh and if Iraq is so important then why at this point in time not one Federal Member of Congress or the Senate has any adult child serving in Iraq. And to finish of what happened in Ward 9 in New Orleans was pure racial genocide, imagine those folks being white Anglo-Saxons and Republican Voters instead of being African American Democrat voters one wonders.

Utter Leftist jingoist drivel. What if I was the Australian President and spilt tea on Doris Day? New Orleans was right up there with Los Angeles and Washingon DC as the crime capitals of the country, so when law enforcement got distracted by emergency rescues, certain elements of the population took advantage and stole, not food and necessities but Plasma TVs and jewelry. So feed your racial drivel to someone else.

[Sloniksp]

Originally Posted by Herr Oberst

But then again we have people who get all their news from ABC NBC CBS amd are ill informed.

I bet that the people that watch all of those news channels, say the same thing about fox...

[Von Poop]

Originally Posted by HO

look it up. It is documented...

Might be worth looking up 'Jingoist' too.

Cheers,
Adam.

[Slipdigit]

Originally Posted by Roddoss72

Oh i see, and what if by some circumstance say a government (America)sends meto Iraq and i happen to get injured and need expensive rehabilitation and after initial treatment turns around and says sorry mate we ain't gonna help, but wait isn't that happening now with several thousand wounded servicemen now needing expensive rehabilitation and are not getting it and are being left out to fend for themselves, oh and if Iraq is so important then why at this point in time not one Federal Member of Congress or the Senate has any adult child serving in Iraq. And to finish of what happened in Ward 9 in New Orleans was pure racial genocide, imagine those folks being white Anglo-Saxons and Republican Voters instead of being African American Democrat voters one wonders.

First of all, please learn to use a period. I believe it is called a full stop in your part of the world, but it functions the same.

If I understand your first rambling sentence correctly, you are trying to say that US doesn't take care of wounded veterans. I challenge you to provide ANY, ANY proof of this.

No member of Congress with a child in Iraq? Read this before you regurgitate leftist claptrap.

Serving on two fronts | The San Diego Union-Tribune

I was going to challenge you provide ANY proof of your genocidal claim regarding Katrina. I decided to disprove it myself, given your past inability or unwillingness to do so yourself. Some are old pages, some are new.
Hurricane Katrina

Statistics Suggest Race Not a Factor in Katrina Deaths -- 12/14/2005

Understand that New Orleans was over 66% black in Aug 2005.

Katrina Death Stats Contradict Racial Complaints

If any group is over represented, it is whites.

Rod, I would suggest that before you go making big bad statements about a country you hate with the intensity that a klansman has for Blacks and Jews, you need to learn more about that country. If I were to voice preceived faults with your country, as you do with mine, I would first be dang certain I knew the correct stories instead of exhibiting my ignorance for all the world to see. Obviously, you know nothing of this country other than what you have seen on biased TV shows.

[Za Rodinu]

[Herr Oberst]

Originally Posted by Za Rodinu

Perfect for the sky is falling crowd

Originally Posted by Von Poop

Might be worth looking up 'Jingoist' too.

Cheers,
Adam.

Fits well for the communists and the ill informed Left too....O long haired one who pisses on bunkers

[Sloniksp]

Originally Posted by Herr Oberst

Fits well for the communists and the ill informed Left too....

You dont much like the left do you

And how did the communists get involved in this one?

[zippo]

Originally Posted by Slipdigit

If I understand your first rambling sentence correctly, you are trying to say that US doesn't take care of wounded veterans. I challenge you to provide ANY, ANY proof of this.

Well the Walter Reed debacle didn't help matters...

Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a sore spot for me, as my father was a Viet-Nam vet, and the V.A. care he recieved (albiet not Reed) was deplorable. I will avoid rants, and don't want this to inflame the thread, but the 2 V.A. hospitals I have personally had experience with were below what I would consider "average" care.

[Slipdigit]

You are right, Zippo, and the problem was addressed by the same government on whom the scorn was placed.

[Sloniksp]

The United States is ( I think ) the 4th largest military on earth, mistakes and negligence may very well occur with such a large force which is engaged in two wars. With all that said, I cant name very many countries which take better care of their troops then the US.

[zippo]

Originally Posted by Sloniksp

The United States is ( I think ) the 4th largest military on earth, mistakes and negligence may very well occur with such a large force which is engaged in two wars. With all that said, I cant name very many countries which take better care of their troops then the US.

I agree, mistakes happen. For all the problems, there were avenues that we as a family followed to get him the care he deserved, even if it wasn't V.A. care.
I just want to think the very people who stepped up to the challenge deserve and get "better" than average care.

[zippo]

Originally Posted by Slipdigit

You are right, Zippo, and the problem was addressed by the same government on whom the scorn was placed.

Sorry for the blunt response. I lost my Dad a few months ago, and I suppose it helps to try to identify an entity responsible. Logically, I understand the short comings of any system, but when it gets personal, well ya just kinda flip out. I can say there were mishaps in the private hospitals that rivaled the poor performance of the V.A. Que Sera...or as my old man would say "it's too late to close the barn doors once the horses got out." Hindsight is 20/20.

[Za Rodinu]

Originally Posted by Sloniksp

The United States is ( I think ) the 4th largest military on earth,

Who are the other three?

[Slipdigit]

Originally Posted by zippo

Sorry for the blunt response. I lost my Dad a few months ago, and I suppose it helps to try to identify an entity responsible. Logically, I understand the short comings of any system, but when it gets personal, well ya just kinda flip out. I can say there were mishaps in the private hospitals that rivaled the poor performance of the V.A. Que Sera...or as my old man would say "it's too late to close the barn doors once the horses got out." Hindsight is 20/20.

Sorry about your father's passing, I hope that it was painless death for him. Where did he serve?
I didn't take it as being blunt. It was an accurate, good point.