It is easy to see that Hitler was obsessed with racial policies over actually winning the war towards the end of the war. What if Hitler had given up all the racial policy measures after Stalingrad and released all the troops, vehicles, trains etc from the camps and jews´ transportation for fighting at the front. Could Hitler increase his troops´ fighting power enough to make a more powerful effort against his enemy?

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Even a single grain of rice can tip the scale, or if you prefer, the straw that broke the camels back. I have always wondered what could have happened if the Jewish question had never been asked. Einstien would have stayed in Germany, all of the manpower and material that was wasted in the final solution... This is also related to what if the Germans had planed on entering Russia as liberators and not Conquerers?

In the end though this is like asking a skunk to not stink.

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Interesting thoughts, Gentlemen.

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It would look like a sign of weakness,I think. Right after being stopped at Stalingrad,all of a sudden Hitler "turns nice." The extra manpower and transportation would be beneficial. They wold lose the forced/slave labour. Stalin had 10s of thousands of civilians to dig the defences at Kusrsk for instance. Who would help Hitler build the Atlantic wall? I would'nt think he'd inconvience the German population by getting them to do it.

As mentioned, Germany would have looked better as Liberators but I don't know how he'd look doing a 180 turn-around. From killing Jews to just stopping. Maybe[?]
the Allies would'nt have wanted un-condtional surrender?

So all of a sudden Hitler becomes nice? The Einsaztzkommando doing tea and cookies parties for the Ukrainians? General Gouverneur Koch giving voting rights for Poles and setting people out of prison? Kamp Kommandeur Höss giving paid holidays though Kraft Durch Freude to his inmates?

Tell me more, I need a few good laughs.

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How about this for a laugh an extra 10 million troops (Ukrainian, Poles, Byelorussian, Jews etc) and also those released from camp duty, a population in the western territories of the Soviet Union actively fighting with you and totaly against the Stalin regime, the domino effect of Soviet Socialst Republics breaking away from the Soviet Union.

Roddoss, many argue that if Hitler walked into Russia, liberated the people, fed them, gave them jobs and treated them like human beings, then what you are implying, might have been the case.

The problem with this thread is the timeline. Millions had already been killed and tortured by this time. Thousands of cities, villages and towns had already been wiped out by the Germans.
I find it very hard to believe that after all of this horror, just by Hilter changing his mind or policies, would have any effect in the outcome.

Ask yourself this, if someone walked into your home, murdered your entire family and friends, burned your house and destroyed your village.... Then all of a sudden would have a change of heart. Would you forgive him and welcome him with open arms?

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What about those 10 million troops deciding to go after the guys who invaded them and turned against the German army, all with the due support of the Soviet Governemt, all in name of a Greater Russia extending all the way to the Dutch Frontier and the Maginot line?

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I would have to agree with all here. There is no way Hitler could have pulled this off. The released prisoners may have rioted and they were living witnesses to the events within the the camps.

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To Sloniksp

You are absolutely correct, i would seek revenge no doubt about that, it is just that the original thread question was flawed with the date of 1943, had Hitler decided that ethnic cleansing (genocide) would not take place and that anyone who openly welcomed German invaders as liberators would be welcomed into the Reich, also any soldier that fought against the German Army would get amnisty and be allowed to join German backed foreign millitia then maybe things could have turned out differently.

No by 1943 the damage had already been done and nothing could reverse that.

To Za Rodinu

Simply put you bore me.

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Very cute, now i know you love me.

Errr, and just what do you equip these 10 million men with....

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With weaponry, i am gonna be ridiculed here but with captured weapons.

Nooooo, nobody is going to ridicule you here, we're not that sort. We believe you're completely capable of that task entirely by yourself



I say, does that pot have a crack?

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Ah well my old sparing partner, up yours i suppose, happy.

Your politeness, sense of humour and ability to make up an argument are interesting indeed.

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A perfect demonstration of the truth that Kindness is a lost art.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

What about releasing all those troops in Norway clicking there heels?

Hitler suddenly calls off the mass shootings in the Baltic states and Russia, say on flip of the coin. What happens to those in concentration camps and ghettos? Are the gates suddenly opened up and off you go its all been a mistake.

The SS would think that Hitler's cheese finally slipped off the cracker.

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"Open channel D"

What cracker? The cracker would be when the Reich offered apologies to the Jews for the Kristallnacht, the SA being sued as a body and as individuals for physical loss and psychological damages, Goering having to offer Karinhall to be converted to a synagogue.

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