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| What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb? |

February 18th, 2008, 09:15 PM
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Za, you are too intelligent to take insult of this kind seriously.
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Who says he's serious? 
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February 19th, 2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Overlord: Same resourse
Oh my god, boys.
My comment to Za was "tongue in cheek" and meant as a joke.
But seriously getting back onto the topic, if the Germans had the same resources as the Western Alliies then "Overlord" would be a massacre for the Americans and British.
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February 20th, 2008, 02:16 AM
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But seriously getting back onto the topic, if the Germans had the same resources as the Western Alliies then "Overlord" would be a massacre for the Americans and British.
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What if Hitler could shoot lighting bolts out of his @$$? Would that have won the war for Germany?
Please think twice before making this kind of stupid what-ifs. Too many military mistakes had already been made by 1944. Nothing short of a miracle could have saved Germany from defeat.
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February 20th, 2008, 02:24 AM
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What if Hitler could shoot lighting bolts out of his @$$? Would that have won the war for Germany?
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Well i wonder, did you think of that one all by yourself or did you get help from an adult.
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February 20th, 2008, 02:28 AM
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Well i wonder, did you think of that one all by yourself or did you get help from an adult.
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After reading a good number of books, I came to the conclusion that this is the only way Germany could have won the war.
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February 20th, 2008, 02:50 AM
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After reading a good number of books, I came to the conclusion that this is the only way Germany could have won the war.
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February 20th, 2008, 03:45 AM
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If they had the same resources as the Western Allies they sure as hell wouldn't be fighting in the West. The Germans had bigger problems in the East. Does anyone seriously think that if they had more troops and resources that they would be sitting idle just in case of an invasion?
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February 20th, 2008, 05:52 AM
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Of course not, how can you domiante the world by sitting on your ass, I think it would be have been an invasion of england much earlier on, then that would eliminate one front to prepare for the russians advance  , so Iron cross what if that had happened? With the extra resourses at there disposal, they took england and irelaand eliminating all allies in Europe but Russia, making no platform to launch an assualt form except for North Africa and Russia, thus allowing more Germans to be moved to Russia, plus the extra industrial power from captured england and the important Docks to possibly build a new Navy to watch the mediterrain, could that have worked?
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February 20th, 2008, 06:30 AM
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Of course not, how can you domiante the world by sitting on your ass
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February 20th, 2008, 07:28 AM
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Well, to be honest, Hitler had 15th Army at Calais doing nothing during June-July 1944, and also some 300,000 men in Norway, and some divisions in Denmark to start with....
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February 20th, 2008, 10:27 AM
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. Please.
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What if Hitler could shoot lighting bolts out of his @$$? Would that have won the war for Germany?
Please think twice before making this kind of stupid what-ifs. Too many military mistakes had already been made by 1944. Nothing short of a miracle could have saved Germany from defeat.
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Well i wonder, did you think of that one all by yourself or did you get help from an adult.
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After reading a good number of books, I came to the conclusion that this is the only way Germany could have won the war.
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Comics are not reliable information, you have to enter the place where books live it is called the library.
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February 20th, 2008, 11:31 AM
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This thread seems to be getting out of hand again 
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February 21st, 2008, 12:08 AM
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This thread seems to be getting out of hand again 
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February 21st, 2008, 01:12 AM
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I think I'll close it for a while. Not permanently, for a week.
Y'all come back then.
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March 5th, 2008, 12:04 AM
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Okay boys, y'all can try this thread again.
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March 5th, 2008, 01:35 AM
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What are the premises? It's pretty clear that the writer intended the Germans to have the same amount of war material as the Allies (which, in itself, was impossible). However, is he also talking about the same Intelligence, Logistics, and Strategy?
It's important to note that Britain had turned every single agent within England. Had the British known about this massive troop concentration in Normandy, they would simply have called D-day off. And, considering that a sizable portion of troops would have to be present in France, the Russians would have faced less opposition.
Of course, the war would be longer. But the first atom bombs were slated to be dropped on Germany, not Japan.
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March 5th, 2008, 04:41 AM
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What are the premises? It's pretty clear that the writer intended the Germans to have the same amount of war material as the Allies (which, in itself, was impossible). However, is he also talking about the same Intelligence, Logistics, and Strategy?
Of course, the war would be longer. But the first atom bombs were slated to be dropped on Germany, not Japan.
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Hey! The Germans get atoms bombs too! Same resources right?
But does that mean the Germans have to give up Rommel & Guderian. After all brain power is a resource.
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March 5th, 2008, 06:02 AM
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Haha very well you guys both got me on that, I should have thought about what I was writing first, because I read it now and go, WHAT THE **** was I doing lol 
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March 5th, 2008, 01:14 PM
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Do you want it to stay open, Tomcat?
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Do you want it to stay open, Tomcat?
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I think we have discussed it as far as it will go so if you want to close it feel free 
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March 5th, 2008, 08:13 PM
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As you wish, Tomcat. If you decide to add anything else, let one of us know.
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