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What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb?

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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: Britain & France don't declare war on Germany

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Fair enough

I know I am relativey new and all it is just annoying that people get proved wrong time and time again with everone of the post which also sound dumber and dumber and they keep fighting. I know that I should just leave it be but it just frustrates me so much, why cant these people just find some one else to annoy?

This isn't just related to this forum but in general.
I know exactly how you feel . But it seem from his responses to you and others that have posted that the logic will just not sink it LOL. Sometimes I just can't resist it also .
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Was going to post the second parts of my time line on the Lord Halifax thread and Chamberlain thread but it appears both have been shut down for some reaosn.
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Was going to post the second parts of my time line on the Lord Halifax thread and Chamberlain thread but it appears both have been shut down for some reaosn.
That is because you failed to follow the "What-if" rules.

Your timeline was a simple "this is what I think" would have happend. Your what if lacked historical backing and any explanation as to why things would have happend the way they did. You failed to address any of the rebuttals which other members have expressed with any facts based on historical events. Your answers simply were on the lines of " Because I said so and most will agree". Such threads cause nothing but tension and are a waiste of time.

Read the "What-if" rules and you will get it.
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Default Re: Britain & France don't declare war on Germany

Slava is correct. The What if rules were changed after Jan 1st of this year with thanks going to Musso, who authored them and Otto, who approved them.

However, you will see What ifs floating around that don't meet the current rules. These were created before Jan 1st and were allowed to run their course, but some keep rising up like Frankenstein's monster, flailing around, and scaring the the citizens. Every now and then, I sneak into the What If laboratory, creaky doors and lightning flashes, and close some of the more heinous threads,* so the we don't have to worry about Igor mixing up the brains, as so often happens.

*These more often that not, involve the repititious and tiring "How can we get Germany to win?" threads that are started by every Tom, Dick and Harry.
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That is because you failed to follow the "What-if" rules.

Your timeline was a simply "this is what I think" would have happend. Your what if lacked historical backing and any explination as to why things would have happend the way they did. You failed to address any of the rebutles which other members have expressed with any facts based on historical events. Your answers simply were on the lines of " Because I said so and most will agree". Such threads cause nothing but tension and are a waiste of time.

Read the "What-if" rules and you will get it.
I answered everything asked it's just that many here did not like the answer.

My original post that was banned just dealt with the fact that Chamberlain offered no Polish gurantee which he came close to doing so why was that banned?
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No you thread was banned Because some members may have gone a little to far with there posts by 'attacking' another member. Basically it just got a little out of control so it was closed to restore order. Plus read the last two post before yours explaining about the broken rules of the 'what if' forums.
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Fair enough

I know I am relativey new and all it is just annoying that people get proved wrong time and time again with everone of the post which also sound dumber and dumber and they keep fighting. I know that I should just leave it be but it just frustrates me so much, why cant these people just find some one else to annoy?

This isn't just related to this forum but in general.
Hang on! I'd rather say you have evolved very rapidly and in the right direction, your posts in general have improved in quality. You've started to think, and showing reasoned arguments.

This thread began as another exercise, then it veered into a thread about a dead thread. O Lordy Lord!!
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Haha thankyou Za, I do feel as though I have learned alot with this short time

So I guess this thread is finished with as well then
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You might reconsider your original premise and find some basis for how it might work.

The British PM Chamberlain and his supporters had not entirely given up on negotiating a settlement with Germany that would save the earlier agreements. They had pressured Poland to accept most of the German demands thinking that would satisfy Hitler and preserve peace. Perhaps it is possible for Hitler to play Chamberlain for a chump a while longer?

Nothing is 100% certain in history, so while many outcomes were fairly set, through reearch can turn up suprising contradictions to the popular assumptions.
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You might reconsider your original premise and find some basis for how it might work.

The British PM Chamberlain and his supporters had not entirely given up on negotiating a settlement with Germany that would save the earlier agreements. They had pressured Poland to accept most of the German demands thinking that would satisfy Hitler and preserve peace. Perhaps it is possible for Hitler to play Chamberlain for a chump a while longer?

Nothing is 100% certain in history, so while many outcomes were fairly set, through reearch can turn up suprising contradictions to the popular assumptions.
We are not doubting that history is uncertain in some places and that many what if could have happened and that the British might have not declared war on Germany. However we do all agree that the British would not just sit by and watch both the Japanese and the Germans attack other members of the world although there is a chance that they would leave the Nazi and the communists to 'slog' it out amoung themselves but that would probably be about it. Britian has always moved into Europe for conflicts amoung outher countries when it threatens her interests and trade and they were certain to to this again if the battles were not containted.
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