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What If? Alternate History: Speculate about WWII battles that never were. Could the Axis have won? What if Hitler had the bomb?

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Old September 16th, 2008, 06:47 AM
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Default If 'Prüfstand XII' Was Successful? New York Blitzed By V-2's

We know the Nazis were close under Operation Prüfstand XII where a U-boat would have launched a V-2 on the United States. Say if New York was 'V-2ed' like England, is it possible the U.S. would pull out and redeploy those forces in the Pacific theatre where their primary enemy was?

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Old September 16th, 2008, 10:06 AM
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Definitely some propaganda value but if heavy bombing of first Britain and then Germany did not make these countries pull out of war or collapse cannot see how a couple or a couple of hundred V2´s tops could make it.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: If 'Prüfstand XII' Was Successful? New York Blitzed By V-2's

I'd say that if such a thing occurred, it would have further strengthened the US resolve. The only thing that the Germans could get out of it would be its propaganda value.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 02:14 PM
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Darkice,

I'm not trying to be ugly with you and appear to follow you around complaining, but you have to follow the rules concerning What If posts, or they will continue to be closed.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: If 'Prüfstand XII' Was Successful? New York Blitzed By V-2's

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Darkice,

I'm not trying to be ugly with you and appear to follow you around complaining, but you have to follow the rules concerning What If posts, or they will continue to be closed.
What If? Forum Rules

First section of the rules:





Search the What If… section before posting to make sure your topic has not been discussed before. If it has, feel free to contribute to the existing thread. If not, create a new thread following these rules:
  • Make sure your question is clear and well thought out.
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The rules went into effect Jan of this year, so you will see some What If that were started before then still floating around, but that does not mean that new ones that don't meet criteria will still be allowed.

Please revise your original post to meet the requirements or this thread will be closed.
I could not find any thread about Operation Prüfstand XII, and I did provide background information..

(Operation Prüfstand XII where a U-boat would have launched a V-2 on the United States.)

And I posted images regarding the topic plus my theory

(Say if New York was 'V-2ed' like England, is it possible the U.S. would pull out and redeploy those forces in the Pacific theatre where their primary enemy was?)

So why don't you just let my thread be, there are tons of useless what if threads sir and this is not one of them.

Now getting back on-topic. Kai-Petri, what really is interesting is that the Germans did start to create nuclear weapons at the very latest stage of the war and they wanted to develop a sort of V-2 derived ICBM. According to the Russians they found nuclear weapons research in an underground complex in Ebensee along with V-2's.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 02:51 PM
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Tsk tsk. Not the way to get into the good graces of the forum. Slipdigit was correct in that you did not provide your thoughts/theory to your posting. You posted a question.

As for the 'tons of useless' what if postings, well that is why these rules were put into effect and all of us here agreed to them. So when in Rome, do as the Romans do or end up in the coliseum.

As for answering your question, it is obvious that nothing other than propaganda value for the Germans would come out of this. The US had the resources to put an end to the sea launchings whereas Germany did not have the resources to continue such a campaign.
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Advanced U-boat Class 'XXI Elektroboote' -Could operate without submerging
I suppose an U-Boot operating without submerging would suffer an even quicker fate than its submerging brothers.

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...there are tons of useless what if threads sir and this is not one of them.
Well, if you say so.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 03:12 PM
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I asked you politely.
I provided a reference to the problems with the original post, in red, no less.
You declined my request.
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