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May 7th, 2002, 08:32 PM
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Alright guys, I'm looking for everyones views on the movie and the man.
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May 7th, 2002, 10:55 PM
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Excellent movie! Never get tired of watching it. As for the man. He is the one general we needed to defeat the Germans. Rommel got compliments from the British. Patton got them from the Germans. It says alot when the enemy discounts intelligence receive pointing to an attack coming from one direction but they believe it is coming from another direction based solely on the presence of a man. Talk about fear and respect.
FYI: I visited his grave in Luxembourg. I did not know he was buried there.
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I think he was a mighty interesting man. He was greatly disliked by many officers before the war. You might say he was a bit strange in a lotta ways, but he was all soldier.a few tid-bits about him:
1.went to VMI then west point.
2.changed uniforms FIFTEEN TIMES A DAY as a cadet
3.his father and his wife were very welthy..thus some of the resentment at a time when the Army was being cut back, and most career Officers were pretty poor.
4.He killed one or two Mexican banndets when he was attached to ole "Blackjack Pershing's" staff when they were chaseing Poncho Viea (spelling)
5.even as a very small child, he knew he was destined to be not just a General, but a "great" one.
6.as a boy, he knew John S. Mosbey(the grey ghost)...makes you wonder what he might have learned from him.
7.The Army sent him to the Olimpics. I think he would have won, but failed in Marksmanship...which was weird because he was one of the best the Army had.
8.was the first instructor of the sword in the army.
9.wrote about horses in the calvery jurnal, and was highly respected for his horsemanship.
10.designed the last Calvery saber for the US Army
11.was first commander of the new tank corp. in ww1
12.in ww1, he is the one who recommmened that the Army replace the Campaign hat with the service field cap(garrision cap)
HE WAS THE KIND OF MAN WHO LIVED AND BREATHED NOTHING BUT BEING A SOLDIER. HE WAS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING, AND HELPED THE ARMY CHANGE FROM THE OLD HORSE AND MULE ARMY TO THE NEW MECHINIZED ARMY. I BELIVE HE DESERVES MUCH CREDIT FOR THAT...EVEN IF YOU LEAVE OUT THE WW2 PART.
13.HE HAD A VERY HIGH FEMINAN VOICE.
ONE FINAL THOUGHT, I THINK GEORGE C. SCOTT CAPTURED HIS SPIRIT JUST FINE, BUT HE CLAIMS THEY DID NOT LET HIM PORTRAY THE REAL "PATTON"
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May 8th, 2002, 02:25 PM
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His comments about Nazi's, Republicans and Democrats being the same cost him the Third Army. However, his comments werent that far off. He was only saying that you had to choose to join the Nazi Party just as you would choose to become a Republican or Democrat (leave it to the media to screw something up). What is everyones opinion on the slapping incident? It is obvious that he had a strong dislike for cowards as he wouldnt even allow them to be in the same hospital as those who were wounded in combat. Also this was a man who believed had always been a warrior in past lives (reincarnation).
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May 9th, 2002, 07:24 PM
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Patton was an excellent combat General. As was General Robert E. Lee in the US Civil War, Prussian Generalleutnant Friedrich-Wilhelm Count Bulow von Dennewitz (now how would you like such a handle  ) of the Napoleanic Wars. Also as Rommel was in ww2.
Patton--was what they in society would say that he is a soldiers soldier. Patton in all of his being, was always someone who was destinied to be The "Ultimate Soldier".
He lost 3rd army because he was planning on starting ww3 against the Russians using people like a certain German Count something or other and his men (which included Waffen SS Troops) to launch an attack against the Russians.
Patton wanted to be buried with the dead in the 3rd army cemetary--he wanted to stay with his men.
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June 26th, 2002, 09:47 AM
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Something that interests me about the movie - which by the way I think is great - is that now, to most people (including me!) George C Scott IS Patton. When I read Patton's words, I 'hear' Scott's low, gravelly growl whereas, by all accounts, Patton himself had an uncharacteristically high-pitched voice. A woman ( I forget who ) met him during the war and called it 'the most disappointing voice in history'.
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June 26th, 2002, 06:56 PM
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That is interesting. Like you, I do picture George C Scott's face when I think of Patton.
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June 26th, 2002, 08:57 PM
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I love his:
"There is one great thing you men will all be able to say when you go home. You may thank God for it. Thank God, that at least, thirty years from now, when you are sitting around the fireside with your grandson on your knees, and he asks you what you did in the great war, you won't have to cough and say, "I shoveled shit in Louisiana."
It always cracks me up....says it all...Beside a great general, also a gifted speech-writer...
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June 26th, 2002, 11:58 PM
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Right and, I used to play it when I had the album years ago--I simply loved his speech. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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June 27th, 2002, 10:54 AM
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That quote about Patton's voice has been bugging me -
I think it was Kay Summersby ( Eisenhower's 'driver' ). Historian Hugh M Cole is kinder, describing Patton's voice as 'high but not squeaky or womanish.When he got angry . . . his voice rose about an octave' ( quoted in D'Este,'A Genius For War')
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June 27th, 2002, 07:17 PM
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Its true--he did have a high-pitched voice. I saw a documentary that had sound with footage of Patton and his voice was high, but not like a females voice.
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June 28th, 2002, 07:03 PM
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No, it's really amazing how a good screen performance can 'colour' our perception of history.
Another 'voice' one is Major-General R E 'Roy' Urquhart ( of Arnhem fame ), played most memorably in 'ABTF' by Sean Connery. His gruff, Scots burr fits the burly General's image very well. When I read Urquhart's memoir, I hear Connery's voice. A couple of years ago, I heard a taped interview with Urquhart, who sounds tewwibly, tewwibly 'upper crust' with a pronounced lisp.
'Hey !' I thought, 'This doesn't sound a bit like Sean Connery !'
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July 1st, 2002, 06:15 PM
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I totally agree with you. Also, for years when I was younger and dumber--I always thought Gregory Peck WAS Gen Douglas MacArthur
I have heard that SUPPOSEDLY, Tom Cruise is supposed to play the roll of Erich Hartmann, in a movie about him. Personally I think this is nothing but crap rumors and IF a movie is made about Erich Hartmann--I think Jude Law would be perfect to play him--Cruise is toooooooo old.
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Re: PATTON
George C. Scott
BBC News | Obituaries | George C Scott: The man who refused an Oscar
His magisterial portrayal of General George S Patton won him the Best Actor award at the 1971 Oscars. Scott shocked Hollywood by being the first person ever to refuse an Academy Award.
He said that the politics surrounding such awards was "demeaning" and described the Oscar ceremony as "a two-hour meat parade".
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Re: PATTON
In 1970 Bradley also served as a consultant during the making of the film Patton. The film, in which Bradley is portrayed by actor Karl Malden, is very much seen through Bradley's eyes: whilst admiring of Patton's aggression and will to victory, the film is also implicitly critical of Patton's egoism (particularly his alleged indifference to casualties during the Sicilian campaign) and love of war for its own sake. Bradley is shown being praised by a German intelligence officer for his lack of pretentiousness, "unusual in a general".
Omar Bradley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That is interesting....
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Re: PATTON
this going to be an un-popular post here, but I really don/t like George C Scott, thus it ruined the movie for me. I'll have to find another, as I think Patton was a great leader. Say what you will about him, but he got the job done!
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December 3rd, 2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: PATTON
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this going to be an un-popular post here, but I really don/t like George C Scott, thus it ruined the movie for me. I'll have to find another, as I think Patton was a great leader. Say what you will about him, but he got the job done!
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Good thing about this forum, we can all agree to disagree. Glad to have you express your honest opinion and it is valued. Who would you like to see portray Patton?
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December 3rd, 2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: PATTON
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this going to be an un-popular post here, but I really don/t like George C Scott, thus it ruined the movie for me. I'll have to find another, as I think Patton was a great leader. Say what you will about him, but he got the job done!
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He certainly favored Patton, but sounded nothing like him, GCS's voice was way too low for GS Patton, who, to me, sounded almost feminine.
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Re: PATTON
I've always heard comments about Patton's voice, but had never heard it. A quick Google found this site, with a small clip of one of Patton's speeches, as well as a clip of Geo. C. Scotts rendition.
General Patton Sound Files
I'd be interested if anyone else has any links to other recordings of Gen. Patton.
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Thanks Lou ! I'd never heard it, either.....
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Wow-that is different. Thanks!
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Re: PATTON
Great movie, good commander and a born soldier. His biggest weakness was his mouth!
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