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Guys, I know I could have posted this on two topics below but I couldn't resist,

This is the scene in Band of Brothers where a German General, just before surrendering to a Lieutenant in the 101st, addresses his troops, the way the Germans are portrayed is second to none to any American war movie I've seen.

Liebgott (Jewish US soldier in the foreground in front of Jeep) is translating to the officers behind...

Call me sentimental but it brings a tear everytime:


"Men, It's been a long war, it's been a hard war."



"You have fought bravely, proudly for your country."



"You are a special group. We've found in one another a bond that exists only in combat among brothers, "



"...who've shared foxholes, held each other in dire moments..."



"...have seen death and suffered together."



"I'm proud to have served with each and every one of you. You deserve long and happy lives in peace."




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"...who've shared foxholes, held each other in dire moments..."
LOL, LOL!

(explanation: see my last post on the "SPR: Vile brainwashing?"-thread)
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Even though it's a norty mistake, I don't see a need to harp on about it too much.

Translation errors are a common misconception, and I'm afraid no Russian will ever be able to enjoy The Hunt for Red October, even though it's a great movie.
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Hahahahaha

sorry, I didn't read the other thread first, quite funny.

Do you reckon they used altavista's bablefish to translate then...in which case it would be:

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Männer, wird es ein langer Krieg, es wird gewesen ein harter Krieg gewesen. Sie haben tapfer, stolz für Ihr Land gekämpft. Sie sind eine spezielle Gruppe. Wir haben in einem anders gefunden, das, eine Bindung, die nur im Kampf unter Brüdern besteht, die die Fuchsbohrungen geteilt haben, gehalten in den entsetzlichen Momenten, Tod gesehen und zusammen gelitten haben. Ich bin stolz, mit jedem von Ihnen gedient zu haben. Sie verdienen die langen und glücklichen Leben im Frieden
Now I am not a German Linguist but it's bound to make at least Andy laugh.

Now I really feel for the poor general, although, for a balanced view, I think the actors last part may have well been an extra at an emergency ward for Berlin's version or "Chigaco Hope" or "Holby City" and known nothing about military history.

Ie, his pre-requisite was:
Sprekensi deutch? Ya
Lookensi Deutch? Ya
Fittensi Uniform? Ya

You gottensi job.

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Even though it's a norty mistake, I don't see a need to harp on about it too much.

Translation errors are a common misconception, and I'm afraid no Russian will ever be able to enjoy The Hunt for Red October, even though it's a great movie.
My ex who is russian thought it was the funnist movie she'd ever seen.
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Do you reckon they used altavista's bablefish to translate then...in which case it would be:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
Männer, wird es ein langer Krieg, es wird gewesen ein harter Krieg gewesen. Sie haben tapfer, stolz für Ihr Land gekämpft. Sie sind eine spezielle Gruppe. Wir haben in einem anders gefunden, das, eine Bindung, die nur im Kampf unter Brüdern besteht, die die Fuchsbohrungen geteilt haben, gehalten in den entsetzlichen Momenten, Tod gesehen und zusammen gelitten haben. Ich bin stolz, mit jedem von Ihnen gedient zu haben. Sie verdienen die langen und glücklichen Leben im Frieden
Now I am not a German Linguist but it's bound to make at least Andy laugh.

</font>[/quote]LOL, now let's see what babelfish makes out of THAT one translated back into english:

"Men, it a long war, it is been a hard war. They fought courageously, proudly for your country. They are a special group. We that, a connection, which exists only in the fight among brothers, who divided the fox drillings in one differently found, in the terrible moments, death to have seen held and together suffer. I am proud with everyone of you to have served. They earn the long and lucky lives in peacetime"



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My ex who is russian thought it was the funnist movie she'd ever seen.
Which is a pity, the movie as well as the soundtrack are legendary. Why did they not take care and commited so stupid mistakes which could have been easily avoided? Why?
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Easy answer KM, two words, Sean & Connery. We all love him but he just can't shake his Scottish voice. Here is what the BBC have to say:

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"Whether he's a Russian sub captain (The Hunt for Red October) or even an English King (First Knight and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves), always that baritone Highland burr remains," says the magazine in its August edition
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...lm/3032052.stm
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If he would SHHHpeak normally, he wouldn't be SHHHHEAN CONNERRRRY, would he?

And yeSHHH, we all love him! Precisely becauSSHE hiSH acSHent! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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anybody see that Saturday Night Live with Sean Connery in Celebrity Jeopardy? If not I think I can remember some of it.
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Easy answer KM, two words, Sean & Connery. We all love him but he just can't shake his Scottish voice.
First of all, only the WORST type of nitpicking smartass would complain: "He is speaking Russian with a Scottish accent, not a Lithuanian one!" [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And then, this is not the only problem, is it? From what I've read, in general Russian quotes in there are faulty, including the soundtrack, and Ukranian instead of Russian cyrillic letters, etc. - what did your Russian girlfriend say about this?
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Why did they not take care and commited so stupid mistakes which could have been easily avoided?
easy, that one is easy KM, HFRO was released in 1990. Russia had only just started it's long plunge into cold war defeat and there were much fewer Russian emigrants than there are today. My ex was a real mystery when she emigrated, in fact the first russian I ever knew so Hollywood either did not have many Russians to sanity check what they did, or (more probably) they knew no one would notice and didn't care.

A great source of amusement for all of you is the "Hunt for red october" fansite where they analyse the Language Blunders:

http://www.kerzap.com/hfro/language.html

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anybody see that Saturday Night Live with Sean Connery in Celebrity Jeopardy? If not I think I can remember some of it.
Eisen. I did see that, most of what "Sean" said is unprintable here but I don't think I've laughed so hard in years.

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Ukranian instead of Russian cyrillic letters, etc. - what did your Russian girlfriend say about this?
Knight. Funny enough she didn't comment on that, I think she was too busy laughing/cringing. I think the part she thought was the funniest was the Russian Anthem, apparently it was sung enthusiastically, but to her it ended up sounding like a Japanese Karaoke version. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Hey, I've just scrolled back to the start, this is supposed to have been a serious thread!

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Thx for the THRO link, Bratwurst!

Btw: My favorite surrender is the one of Phoolan Devi in "Bandit Queen" - about an abused Indian girl, turning into a "Robin Hood" kind of robber.
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Eisen. I did see that, most of what "Sean" said is unprintable here but I don't think I've laughed so hard in years.
"I'll take shwords for 500, Trebek..."
"Mr. Connery...that's 's words'"
"SHCIMITAR! Shtartsh with a bloody esh...fine...I'll take 'the rapist for 200'"
"That's 'therapist'"

Last question...write down your answer..."Your favorite person...go...*music* Mr. Connery you wrote "Alex Trebek"...why...Mr. Connery I'm touched..."
"I wash jusht givin ya a hard time, laddy..."
"You wagered...'sucks'"
"HAHA...the day ish mine..." [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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