I agree. I like "Crapgame" too.

I saw SS Doomstrooper when the scifi channel replayed it. I struggeled through about half the movie-then decided to erase from my memory of-watching part of that film by popping on the DvD player and watching some episodes of Hogan's Heroes.

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Here in Finland they sell a 12 movie DVD-box called "Wardog". I don't know how they did it, but somehow some of the worst WWII movies ever made are part of that collection. For example, the earlier mentioned Wheels of Terror / The Misfit Brigade. What a load of effin' crap. And I thought you simply can't make a bad movie based on Sven Hassel's novels. Sadly, I was wrong. Luckily I didn't have to pay a cent for that box. But to be honest, it had a couple of quite decent movies, too.

Another "not so good" Wardog-movies are:
- Return from the River Kwai
- Triple Cross
- Flying Leathernecks
- The Last Drop

Also these brainfarts need to be mentioned (not included into that DVD-box, though):
- Captain Corelli's Mandolin
- Yanks
- Empire of the Sun
- Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence

And every piece of s*it with words "nazi", "death" or "terror" in their titles.

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FYI! My avatar is an old Finnish Aviator's Badge, designed in 1918 and it has nothing to do with one Austrian corporal or his ideas.

Battle of the Bulge..

Put on a fire in a closed bunker? YEAH RIGHT
Where are the Überdruckventils? I don't see one.
And than the big space between it normally there had to be a wall in there.

And than the tank battle and versus infantry when they - I thought - came(drove) over
hill.. WTF did there happen?



More movie comment from me coming since I got plenty of others.

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I watched the later half of the Dirty Dozen, starting at the Last Supper scene. I realize that is pure fiction but I had never really watched to see just how bad it was. What got my attention was the scene where they are jumping into Normandy. They throw out the equipment packs out then it is a good 5 seconds or more before someone (I think it was Reisman/Lee Marvin) stood in the door and even began to make a show of possibly exiting the aircraft. At cruising speed of 160mph for the C47, that's 237ft/sec for 5 seconds, almost 1200 feet/400 yds to the second pack the aircraft travels before the first man could exit the aircraft. The first pack would be even further away. Jump speeds for the C-47 may be slower, but still, having to hump a 1000 yards or more in the dark to find a two packs and assuming they drifted more because they weighed less, how easy would it be. After this scene I starting watching and there was just so many lame scenes and uniform problems with the Germans.

Please note, I'm not rating this movie as the worst, there is always Fireball Forward.

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awww come on Slip, that's a classic! i think it's kind of funny that even the dozen themselves have different uniforms in different colors!! all the movie goofs! but i still like it!!

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Scott

I think that 'Dirty Dozen' is a love-it-or-hate-it movie. To some, it's a total classic whereas others just don't like it.

I have to say that it's just not for me, even though I'm not averse to 'fantasy' movies ( eg 'Where Eagles Dare' is one of my all-time favourites.... )

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WOW, Jeff and Martin now have the distincition of being the first twqo and ONLY two people that I have ever heard of that hated The Dirty Dozen. All I can say is WOW!!!

Jeff, you need to give the movie another show-from the beginning and watch for the excellent interaction that goes on between all of the actors. Lee Marvin does one hell of an excellent job in this movie. Charles Bronson was great as well. I can go on and on about the rest of the cast as well.

WOW, im flabbergasted.

Being that I was (and still am) so flabbergasted at Jeffs and Martins negative responses about the classic: The Dirty Dozen, I completely forgot to post what i'd originally wanted to post?

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Don't worry Carl, I have "senior" moments like that all the time!!

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Heh heh but whats MY excuse?

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Now Carl, I didn't say I hated the movie. To the contrary, I like the movie, but I really noticed some things about the movie that detracted from it. I've probably seen it 15-20 times over years since I was about 10. The pre-jump parts are good, enjoyable fun and the chateau part, well, not so much. I liked it when they drove the prime mover over the car. That was cool.

I'll never put in the same category as The Baffle of the Bulge. Few movies are that rank.

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Thin red line, Pearl Harbour.
I still cringe.

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{{{Aw C-mon, now your picking on the: Battle of the Bulge?]]] Just kidding, just kidding ;-))

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Ditto. I thoroughly disliked both of those movies. If I had to choose which to see again, Pearl Harbor would be my choice since it's barely watchable. However, TRL isnt watchable at all. I will always wonder just why, the studio that made the remake, chose such a "dud" to remake? The original TRL, stunk pretty bad as well.

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yeah.."thin red line" HA!

there's 2 hours of my life i want back!

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I wanted to blow my brains out after seeing that, biggest pile of crap i have ever watched made Pearl Harbour simply interesting. I ended up on Anti-depressants after that, i want my life back.

Sorry Carl, I dislike the Dirty Dozen as well. The "original", "definitive", win against impossible odds fantasy. Agreed, some of the stars are top notch, action is always a "big" sell, but that doesn't make up for the plot.
Armageddon is a like effort of losers saving the day in the nick of time. World saving hero's? I wouldn't hire these guys to mow my lawn.
Unfortunately the "cornerstone" of ceaseless come from behind, against impossible odds "Sports" movies as well.
They're all like eating popcorn with a sore throat,...you know what's coming, and it's going to hurt, and it's not worth the pain. So...why do it ?
One for the gripe list...I did like...
Thin Red Line.......DUCK !......
The humanity of it was, I think....real. The wimpy CO of the Company...Starels, would've never led. The mistakes, useless slaughter (both forces), Banzai charges (when they knew their goose was cooked), depredation of means (weapons/supplies-water/reconnaissance/viable support, tactics-(those two guys being told to move up, when it was surely suicidal, which it was), and the insanity, unpreparedness, unexpected horrific violence, rookie mistakes (hand grenade incident), feigning sickness, and surrealistic thoughts of soldiers trying to be somewhere else instead of in the thick of all that suffering), was closer than other flag wavers dared to be.
Desperate (human) choices in war (where that "luxury" does not exist), and how humanity, tries to ignore the obvious in order to (maintain/juggle) (sanity/conscience/duty), even against its' own survival).
Perhaps too deep for most.
Above all, the accuracy of fire, and what actually happens in a battle where the enemy does not miss, just because of the uniform of its' targets.
A shock, yet why unbelievable ?
It went past what would've transpired, but not past what could've.
Not a "peace-nick" movie (wholly), rather a glimpse at souls ?
I own it, and enjoyed the fact that it was so cheap. One can always, jump past the stupid parts (as with most others), to get to the relevant stuff.
The full meaning of the "Title" (from the first version) was....."There is a thin red line separating the sane from the insane."

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Hi Skunk.W, wow, ;-)) now I know three who disliked the film. I don't know, I just never watched that film for realism, if I did; i'd hate it too I guess?

Actually, I try never to watch any film for any realism that it's touted as having. If I did, there would be very few films I could actually like. Heck, take a look at: "Hart's War as an example. Never, not once, have I ever heard of Black Soldiers who were made POW's ever billeted with White POW's. Yet, this movie had those two pilots billeted in a "white" barracks. Also, their "Hogan's Heroes-like" scenario though enjoyable to watch, was a laugh at best if looking for realism.

I know im one of few here who actually enjoyed watching: Battle of the Bulge. I like that movie for many reasons like:

Because it's one of my top most favorite battles to study about that happened in WWII.

The all-star cast.

The battle scenes.

The music.

One of my Uncles was in the 101st and was at Bastogne.

My roommate's Uncle was killed in Bastogne just one day before Col. Abrams broke the German encirclement.

Because this battle is one of few on the Western Front, that can be compared to battles on the Eastern Front.

Someday, maybe I can "convert" you guys on this movie?

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