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January 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
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Iron Cross movie
Hello All,
My favorite movie is that superb Movie "Iron Cross" made in 1970' with J.Koburn, and Maximilien Shell...
the combat are realy real, well done, and the story is quite good
what do you think about it ?
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January 10th, 2008, 07:51 PM
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Excellent movie. Too bad the sequel was not of as high quality as the first movie. I think that this was the first movie that came close to showing what 'real' war was like. Excellent. Now you've got me motivated to see it again.
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January 10th, 2008, 10:46 PM
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Like Ike said, it's an excellent movie. The slow action directing that Sam Peckinpah did for many mnay scenes in it was brilliant.
I liked the "sequal" mainly because Robert Mitchum, Curt Jurgens, Klaus Lowitsch and one other guy the one who played Anselm from the first movie; were in it. However, I hated it when Krueger and Anselm were both killed in the sequel.
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January 11th, 2008, 05:28 AM
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Re: Iron Cross movie
I did not know there was a sequel  
Please tell what it was called ?
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January 11th, 2008, 07:00 AM
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Like Ike said, it's an excellent movie. The slow action directing that Sam Peckinpah did for many mnay scenes in it was brilliant.
I liked the "sequal" mainly because Robert Mitchum, Curt Jurgens, Klaus Lowitsch and one other guy the one who played Anselm from the first movie; were in it. However, I hated it when Krueger and Anselm were both killed in the sequel.
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Sequel you say, What's it called? Peckinpah directed it? Oh wait a minute, Break through? Not very good, and not Peckinpah....the farm house meeting with Richard Burton and Rod Steiger?....bad sequel Stransky was supposed to get nailed when he couldn't reload near the rail car at the end of Cross of Iron.....Oh well, I guess he got promoted to major and transferred back to the western front in record time.
Yup, Peckinpah was a great director and excellent actors. Can't find anything bad to say about Cross of Iron....
Hänschen klein ging allein
In die weite Welt hinein,
Stock und Hut steht ihm gut,
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Da besinnt sich das Kind,
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January 11th, 2008, 04:21 PM
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IMO, great film by Sam Peckinpah :-)
Surprisingly seldom mentioned in "WWII movies" - discussions...
And Iron Cross is a good break from the "brainless german soldiers don't take cover and are killed by the very brave GIs" - films ;-D
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January 11th, 2008, 04:31 PM
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It was called 'Battlethrough'. Had Richard Burton as Steiner. Personally I can't stand the music score. It was produced by West Germans but directed by an American.
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January 11th, 2008, 04:49 PM
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It was called 'Battlethrough'. Had Richard Burton as Steiner. Personally I can't stand the music score. It was produced by West Germans but directed by an American.
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January 11th, 2008, 05:46 PM
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I'd never heard of the sequel either - have to say, it doesn't sound too wonderful.
'Cross Of Iron' is a classic, and an important Peckinpah movie.....
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January 11th, 2008, 06:47 PM
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Cross of Iron is a top film and one of the best to show combat on the Eastern Front , love the opening few minutes whern they take out the mortar crew and Steiner looks round and says " Good Kill " a classic line !!
Might just watch it again for the hundreth time tonight.
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Cross of Iron is a top film and one of the best to show combat on the Eastern Front , love the opening few minutes whern they take out the mortar crew and Steiner looks round and says " Good Kill " a classic line !!
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January 11th, 2008, 09:42 PM
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It was called 'Battlethrough'. Had Richard Burton as Steiner. Personally I can't stand the music score. It was produced by West Germans but directed by an American.
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Hi Ike, hope you don't mind a slight correction but, the correct title of the movie is, Breakthrough.
Forgot to mention that the Stransky character in this sequal was not played by Maximilian Schell-who was the original Stransky.
By the way, if I can ever find a place or an individual who can make photo's from some movie cells I have, I do have I think 6-8 from Cross of Iron. The rest I have are from: A Bridge Too Far. I'd like to get them posted here. I found one-that's ONE photographic studio in town that could make prints from only 4 cells-at $10.00 a piece! All four of them came out with a "pinkish" look to them and are of scenes of the fighting that's going on when Lt. Meier gets killed.
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January 11th, 2008, 10:10 PM
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That's cool Carl that you have movie cells from those films, what a neat thing to collect. I've seen the ones from Bugs Bunny and they go for big bucks 
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Hi Ike, hope you don't mind a slight correction but, the correct title of the movie is, Breakthrough..
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There must be gremlins in here because I swear I typed breakthrough. Thanks for the correction Carl. I don't mind at all.
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January 12th, 2008, 12:20 AM
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Ike, You should have went back and changed it then asked Carl what he was talking about. he he he
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Ike, You should have went back and changed it then asked Carl what he was talking about. he he he
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That's cool Carl that you have movie cells from those films, what a neat thing to collect. I've seen the ones from Bugs Bunny and they go for big bucks 
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Hi Col, though these are made out of the same material, they are two different birds. Animation cells are very big usually about 20 or so inches by about 16 inches. These are the ones that actual art is painted oon and each cell is a one of a kind. I used to have several cells at one time from The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-along with some pre-cell pencil sketches and notes. I sold these off long ago-unfortunately.
Movie cells are about the size of a thumbnail. There are more than one copy of each movie cell.
Thanks Ike. ;-))
Jeff, your an eeeeeville man ;-))
PS, Alabama is now officially kicked out of the Confederacy and is now known as a YANKEE State ;-D
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Jeff, your an eeeeeville man ;-))
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How can it be kicked out, it is the HEART of Dixie. See, it says so on our tags. Just ignore that "Stars Fell On" crapola.

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January 12th, 2008, 09:46 PM
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thanks for this great Discussion my friends,
Steiner the great not "Hitler member" German soldier with that little friends soldier the "Steiner section" fight the Soviet Army for a lost battle, it's a real Bravery...
100% for my favorite movie !!!
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January 14th, 2008, 09:51 PM
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I prefer sneaky.
How can it be kicked out, it is the HEART of Dixie. See, it says so on our tags. Just ignore that "Stars Fell On" crapola.

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 Even I can see that photoshop was used in the makings of the license plate photo!
The actual "Heart of Dixie" was the State of Virginia. Just ask Robert Edward Lee and he will tell you so. ;-))
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Bobby Lee aside, The CSA was a country with Montgomery as its capital long before Virginny showed up wanted to be a part of it.
There has been a bit of controversy here for several years since that tag debuted because the "Heart of Dixie" logo is so small, as if they are trying to hide it. State law mandates that it be on all tags. Some people have purchased adhesive strips that say Heart of Dixie and have placed it over that "Stars Fell On..." crap. The Law* is supposed to write tickets for "defacing the tag" but most refuse to do it.
*Southern term used to denote policemen, High Sheriff** or deputies, constables, the FBI or any other member of a law enforcement agency. Used in an sentence: "Slow down Bubba, the Law gon' write you a ticket."
**Another Southern term. It is used to denote the senior law enforcement official in counties. In other areas he simply known as the Sheriff. "I got mouthy with the High Sheriff when he busted up my still and he planted his boot in my butt."
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