It's Hollywood, historically accuracy is another thing. In fact Stauffenberg started speaking with an American accident because of Sharpnel he got in his head in 1943, but hush.... that's a secret you're not supposed to know before Walkyrie II when the bodies of the executed rise again to seek for revenge and start killing Nazis with Indiana Jones.

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Yeah, I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the plotters were largely aristocrats?
In "Defiance" accented English=Yiddish, Russian=Russian, and German=German. This is expedient to film making because most audiences do not like a whole lot of subtitling and hey! It's their dime. I myself prefer subtitles but I suspect that people of my view represent an extreme minority. My musical tastes wandered off the "English only" reservation decades ago and and my library has a lot of CDs of folksongs in Yiddish, Spanish, Gaelic, Greek, Russian and etc.
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Another let down was the Director Brian Singer who clearly is going through a bad patch. I question the fact should he directed? No is my answer.

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I agree with this review. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. Going into it you MUST realize there will be some liberties taken with the material, but the core story is there. This film is interesting and makes me want to learn more about Operation Valkyrie and all of its major and minor players. We can only hope the youth of today should take such a lesson from this film. Anything that makes one want to learn more about a given subject has to be viable work in my opinion.

Tom Cruise also did a good job. After all, he doesn't play his real world crazy persona in his movies, so...high marks for him – which is usually the case with his acting for me.

The criticism that Tom Cruise was playing the same, one-dimensional intense self is valid, I think.

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Hi;
An interesting allegation about Himmler KNOWING about the plot and doing nothing in hopes of seizing power for himself; Axis History Forum • View topic - heroes or traitors?
NOT a positive development for the Allied cause if this were to have happened-there was no WWII leader that played strategic defensive game more poorly than AH.
JeffinMNUSA

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Saw Valkyrie last night and it is a well made and produced movie, however towards the end the movie seemed to be speeding up like they were in a hurry for some reason. I guess they had to start cutting more and more film away as they noticed the 2 hour limit was soon reached.

I don´t know why but I´d have liked to have seen more footage of Hitler after the bombing, as well as the Mussolini visit, but I guess they wanted to keep the story with Stauffenberg.

It´s good to see how they also through Cruise´s mouth let you understand that if everyone had done what was planned they would have very probably succeeded in the coup anyway, but somehow everyone was so afraid whether Hitler would live or not. "Poor Fromm" who should have known better in the first place.

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Is this a remake of the German film "Stauffenberg"? I've seen that one and am looking forward to seeing the Hollywood version. Has anybody seen both? Which is better?

Seen the German ( 2004? ) version and Cruise´s version. I think the latter is better but it´s mostly because of the quality (=money ) put into the film.

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Was that the one with the big Rommel? I saw one on the bomb plot some years ago and the actor tho played Rommel was on the big side. Struck me as a TV movie, only saw it once and never seen on TV since then.

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Valkyrie is finally being shown in Philippine cinemas. My dad and younger brother have seen the movie and they said it was great.
I've reserved comment until I get to see it. I'll be watching this movie this weekend.

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Fil

i saw it and it was awesome man

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Bit of a late addition here, but after seeing it for the first time I actually thought it was so good, that I went and saw it again the next week I agree Cruise might not have been the best choice for the character but they needed something to pull the audiences in.

Overall, I thought it was a well made movie, kept you interested and had a great cast. Mind you, after seeing Love Actually, Bill Nighy just made me laugh, until he started almost crying at the end

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I loved it.

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Regards, Christian/SMLE shooter.

I missed seeing it in the theaters but, it'll probably be on DvD in a few months-so i'll see it then.

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Summer-time release.

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Danke ;-)) I appreciate the headers up.

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Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

this movie was one of my favorites this year!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just watched this thing on Pay-Per-View. Even with Tom Cruise dying I want my two hours and five dollars back.

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The movie should have been about the Stauffenberg's thoughts, personal development, and the thinking of the plotters vs the thoughts of the front soldiers,etc.

Instead, it was a "tense" drama movie focusing on fingers, pointless conversations, etc.

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I finally saw this movie the other week and I liked it.

I can assure you that my disdain for this movie has nothing to do with a lack of WW2 knowledge.

I honestly think "Hogan's Heroes" did a better job of portraying the Third Reich than this movie.

There was no development of charecters, there was no suspense, there was no action.

I think it could have been longer and been a better movie.

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"Logos, Philos, Arete"

I thought the movie was decent...i also thought it lacked some character development and it did seem as if it would be a little bit hard to follow without a relatively good grasp of WWII. And there was just something about tom cruise being the main character in a big WWII movie that just didnt do it for me...he is just too american, all i could think of was Mission Impossible III...

I saw it a few weeks ago; It was ok, but nothing to really write home about. If someone gave me a copy of it, I wouldn't turn my nose up at it, but "Defiance" went into the cart at chez Target this afternoon before I even considered Valkyrie.

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Those who kept silent yesterday will remain silent tomorrow"
~Elie Wiesel~

The movie was okay but like anything coming out of hollywood you cant get your hopes up too much. It has Tom Cruise in it and the aim is more about making money and drawing in a crowd than being historically accurate or like a documentary or biography.

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