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Thank you JC, Richard,
JC, the Foreign awards he had I THINK would have only been worn once-ir either only at some "official" function.
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Perhaps it was also due to personal taste. There are many photos out there with German soldiers wearing multiple decorations. You would have thought he would have worn at least the Iron Cross First Class like everyone else LOL.
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Does not seem the "Big Boys" had much either at the HQ meetings....( we know what Hitler only wanted to wear ).
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In the film, Cruise affects a German accent and a historically accurate eye patch to play Claus von Stauffenberg, a Nazi colonel who plotted the only known assassination attempt—an obviously unsuccessful one—against Adolf Hitler
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Yes, but then Hollywood and their publicists seem to not let historical accuracy get in the way of the making of their films. It's why I respect the few who actually do the research and don't mess with history for the "story".
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Looks like we're going to have to wait a while to see Tom Cruise winning the Battle of Britain, I suppose....?
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Perhaps it was also due to personal taste. There are many photos out there with German soldiers wearing multiple decorations. You would have thought he would have worn at least the Iron Cross First Class like everyone else LOL.
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HI J.C. I think you correct in your assumption about personal taste. I can't say anything for definate but, I think the foreign awards were mainly worn for official occasions and or if the soldier in question was a liason officer of sorts attached to an allies staff, or if he was posted to a post in a foreign allies Country as some sort of an Military Advisor?? Being no awards expert that I am not, I think the wearings of foreign awards were done so only on the day that award was given to the soldier-and then thereafter, on only official occasions. I can't think of any other reasons either way.
One case in point I can think of is when Sergeant Alvin C. York was awarded his foreign decorations including a Croix de Guerre etc. I have only seen a few pics of him weariing his awards (after he was awarded the Medal of Honor) and in those pics-he only wore his American decorations.
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Re: Cruise's Valkyrie Ride Delayed—Again
February 2009 is the new release date.
Link to the trailer:
YouTube - Valkyrie trailer
Say what you will about the many peculiarities of barking Tom Cruise, he can act a part well (magnolia, vanillia sky, born on the 4th of july). Also Bill Nighy and Kenneth Brannagh should add to it.
IMDB link: Valkyrie (2009)
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HI J.C. I think you correct in your assumption about personal taste. I can't say anything for definate but, I think the foreign awards were mainly worn for official occasions and or if the soldier in question was a liason officer of sorts attached to an allies staff, or if he was posted to a post in a foreign allies Country as some sort of an Military Advisor?? Being no awards expert that I am not, I think the wearings of foreign awards were done so only on the day that award was given to the soldier-and then thereafter, on only official occasions. I can't think of any other reasons either way.
One case in point I can think of is when Sergeant Alvin C. York was awarded his foreign decorations including a Croix de Guerre etc. I have only seen a few pics of him weariing his awards (after he was awarded the Medal of Honor) and in those pics-he only wore his American decorations.
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LOL JC. That boy does not need a bulletproof vest, all those awards are enough to stop a bullet.
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LOL JC. That boy does not need a bulletproof vest, all those awards are enough to stop a bullet.
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LOL I was thinking the same thing. That tunic must weigh 10 pounds at least!! LOL
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I'd be highly surprised if he did not get into somekind of trouble because, notice he has the Silver IAB as well as the Luft Ground Combat awards. The ONLY reason he'd have the Silver IAB is because they were actually awarded to Luftwaffe personnel, because the Ground Combad Badge, had not been in existance at the time he quilified for a combar assault award. ;-))
JC, great picture though ;-))
PS, the only badges missing are: the Glider Assault, Balloon Assault, the Bridge Assault w/ Clasp, the Fortress Assault; and his River Assault Badges. :-D
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Not to forget the swimmers proficiency badge of 1942... (Standing joke in the RNA when younglings are flashing their medals and ribbons)
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Maybe there should be a thread for pictures of soldiers with the most decorations on thier uniforms? LOL
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Not to forget the swimmers proficiency badge of 1942... (Standing joke in the RNA when younglings are flashing their medals and ribbons)
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 My roommate who was a Platoon Sergeant for 14 years, told me about some of those European Foragers he had to go on every year. He's got a medal for each of 14 foragerrs he went on as well as some medal from whichever Country that held those marches. If he wore everything he had, he'd easily beat Audie L. Murphy and Lt.Col. Matt Urban-for most decorations. That's one of his standing jokes that he tells people. ;-))
JC, your the man for the job of providing us with those such photos ;-))
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Looks like we're going to have to wait a while to see Tom Cruise winning the Battle of Britain, I suppose....?
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Next thing you know he will claim that von Stauffenberg was a Scientologist!!!!  LOL
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Next thing you know he will claim that von Stauffenberg was a Scientologist!!!!  LOL
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My sisters nice's brother in law, knows the uncle to the halfbrother of the postman who has got a sibeling who serve tea to the cast in the movie. Word is that Stauffenberg using his Scientologist superpowers whack ole Hitler and replace him with 59 yearold milkman Albert Alfred Schnellfahren Schroeder. Albert Alfred Schnellfahren Schroeder is instructed to dod all the wrong moves to bring about the end of the war. Staffenberg is never really killed, and has a lengthy love affair with both Eva Brau and Magda Goebbels (played by Kate Winslet and Uma Thurman respectivily) The Love triangle makes up 3/4 of the movie...
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Film | 20.07.2008
Release of Tom Cruise's World War II Epic Delayed
Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Tom Cruise's attempt on Hitler's life won't be seen in cinemas until next year
A movie in which Tom Cruise plays a true-life German World War II hero will not reach screens until February 2009, the producers said as Germans were getting ready to mark the 64th anniversary of the anti-Hitler plot.
"Valkyrie" was meant to launch this summer as public interest grows in the failed bid to assassinate the Nazi dictator on July 20, 1944.
The German armed forces revere the chief plotter, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, as a paragon of self-initiative and courage, and are set to hold a torchlit parade on Sunday in Berlin in his memory.
The film's German-language website includes both a promotional video in English still giving the 2008 release date and a fast-moving trailer in German stating the German theatre release will be on February 5. Talk of an autumn release has come to nothing.
Carl Woebcken, chief executive of Studio Babelsberg, which is co- producing the movie with Cruise's company United Artists, said the delay was beneficial since the film could earn better box-office receipts next year.
"Shooting has only just finished," he said. "We're likely to have the first rough edit of the movie by the end of July."
Location filming in Germany began in July last year, just as Germany was gearing up to mark the 63rd anniversary of the plot, and lasted till October. The director was Bryan Singer.
Cruise, who plays Stauffenberg, is the main face in the trailer.
The video uses overlays with a real-life Stauffenberg photo to assert that he is the spitting image of the German aristocrat, who placed a bomb near Hitler's knees at the dictator's Wolf's Lair headquarter. Hitler survived the blast with cuts.
The fact that the audience will know from the beginning that the bomb plot failed has raised questions about whether the film can be truly exciting. The producers say it is more a thriller than a war movie.
"The first half of the movie explains to you who these people were and what they would have to go through to successfully assassinate Adolf Hitler.
"The second half of the movie we wanted to be the day of the event itself," explains writer Christopher McQuarrie in the video.
The casting of Cruise, a practicing Scientologist, in the role of the anti-Nazi hero caused controversy last year in Germany, where the Scientology creed is viewed by some people as anti-democratic.
Stauffenberg and his fellow plotters are among the very few members of Germany's wartime armed services given hero status today.
Release of Tom Cruise's World War II Epic Delayed | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 20.07.2008
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German Historian Compares Tom Cruise Speech to Nazi Minister
Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: It's not the first time Cruise has sparked controversy in Germany
Scientology has rejected comments by a German historian comparing a speech by Hollywood star Tom Cruise to one by a Nazi minister, accusing the paper that published it of being "grossly irresponsible."
The Church of Scientology, of which Cruise is a leading member, reacted furiously to a newspaper interview by German historian Guido Knopp in which he drew parallels between the Hollywood star and Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.
" Bild am Sonntag is grossly irresponsible for publishing horrendous and disgraceful claims about Mr. Cruise," the church's public affairs director, Karin Pouw said, referring to the German mass-selling tabloid which published the interview.
Pouw said the footage, which surfaced on the YouTube Web site this week, was a pirated, edited video taken from a three-hour event.
" Bild am Sonntag has disgracefully misinterpreted Mr Cruise's remarks," Pouw said. "He was giving an acceptance speech for a humanitarian award bestowed in honor of his efforts for global literacy. In doing so, he was urging other people to become involved in similar humanitarian activities to the betterment of all.
Historian says speech stirs ugly memories
Knopp, who works for German broadcaster ZDF and heads their programs on contemporary history, said over the weekend that the Mission Impossible star's speech to other Scientology members, leaked on to the Internet this week, was reminiscent of a 1943 speech by propaganda minister, Joseph Göbbels.
Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Knopp drew parallels between Cruise's speech and that of Göbbels, right
The speech that Cruise made four years ago asks fellow members of the church: "Should we clean this place up?"
Knopp said it was sure to remind Germans of Göbbel's notorious speech in Berlin on Feb. 18, 1943 when he asked the audience: "Do you want total war?"
"It may be the case that Cruise's delivery style is not uncommon in certain religious movements in the US," Knopp said. "But for Germans with an interest in history, that scene where he asks whether the Scientologists should clean up the world and everyone shouts 'yes' is inevitably reminiscent of Göbbel's notorious speech."
Scientology deeply controversial in Germany
Unlike the US, Germany does not recognize Scientology as a church and there are debates about whether to ban the organization. The movement is often described as a sect that exploits its members financially. In December, regional ministers agreed to investigate the possibility of banning it.
Cruise also sparked controversy in Germany last year because of his role as a Nazi resistance hero Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg in a new film, "Valkyrie" of which he is also the producer. Von Stauffenberg led the failed Valkyrie plot, from which the film takes its name, to assassinate Adolf Hitler in 1944.
Cruise's plans to film a part of the film at the German defense ministry in Berlin, where Stauffenberg was executed after the failed assassination attempt, met with resistance from German government officials because of his links with Scientology.
The officials later changed tack and allowed the filming to go ahead. Cruise's role in Scientology is examined in an explosive unauthorized biography of the actor by British writer Andrew Morton which hit shelves in the United States earlier this month.
The publication of the book has been given wide coverage in German media. It was described by Scientology as "replete with lies."
Karin Pouw said Germany had misunderstood the US actor.
"Anyone who knows Mr Cruise knows that he does not have a prejudicial bone in his body and that, unlike Bild am Sonntag and other German anti-religionists, he does not discriminate against any other religion, race or color."
German Historian Compares Tom Cruise Speech to Nazi Minister | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 22.01.2008
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What if Hitler had become a Scientologist?
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What if Hitler was a Scientologist? Don't think so, he aint as dashing as Cruise, hehehe.
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Jul 30 2008 6:57 PM EDT
Tom Cruise's Much-Delayed 'Valkyrie' Isn't A Dud, Co-Star Bill Nighy Insists
Release date has been moved to accommodate shoots, not to bury the film, Nighy says.
By Shawn Adler
If you're the type of far-thinking filmgoer who likes to look up release dates well in advance of a movie's completion, you might have penciled in this weekend to see the new Tom Cruise World War II drama "Valkyrie." That is, if you hadn't already penciled it in for last month.
With four date changes, the most recent of which has the film opening on February 13, 2009, "Valkyrie" has had more starts and stops than the plot to assassinate Hitler from which it gets its title.
When a movie gets shifted as much as this one, it's not unreasonable to assume it's a stinker. But rumors of the film's poor quality are patently untrue, co-star Bill Nighy insisted, telling MTV News that the film was pushed back for the very simple reason that it is still in production.
"We just shot some extra scenes for it," said Nighy, who plays German General Friedrich Olbricht. "One of the reasons that the date was changed was in order to do the extra scenes, which they were always going to do if they felt [the film] warranted it. They've added some new stuff, and people are very excited about it."
Directed by Bryan Singer ( "X-Men"), "Valkyrie" follows Claus von Stauffenberg (Cruise), a Nazi soldier who hatches a plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler during the waning years of the war. " 'Valkyrie' is a great story, a true story, and it's a faithful account," Nighy said. "They haven't bent the story to accommodate the movie or anything. It's an honest and serious film."
So if everything is taken straight from history, what is it they always wanted to film but hadn't?
According to Nighy, the new scenes are mostly big-budget action sequences set in Northern Africa, where, at the beginning of the war, von Stauffenberg was grievously injured, losing a hand and an eye (thus necessitating that silly-looking pirate patch for which Cruise has been endlessly ridiculed).
"The new scenes for the large part are those scenes in North Africa," Nighy said. "So where it stands is that they're very excited and enthusiastic for it and very bullish for it."
Although February has traditionally been thought of as the month where mediocre movies go to die, the Presidents Day weekend has, in recent years, proved highly profitable for films like "Jumper," "Ghost Rider" and "Eight Below."
And the proximity to Valentine's Day gives marketing execs a chance to try out Nighy's new slogan.
"It's Valentine's Day," Nighy laughed, "so take your date to see a movie about killing Hitler!"
Tom Cruise's 'Valkyrie' Isn't A Dud, Says Co-Star - Movie News Story | MTV Movie News
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