Go and take a hike.

Not all Germans were party members and fanatical Nazis, give me a break.

Well the hell is STALINGRAD in that list?
More to the point where the hell is DOWNFALL as well?

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I watche "How I won the War" with John Lennon again last night. That one just cracks me up LOL. Alaways brings a smile to my face and so historically accurate . LOL

How I Won the War (1967)
How I Won the War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

JC, what's this one about? I've heard of it but never seen it.

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Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

Here ya go .

Overview
The film stars Michael Crawford as bungling British Army Officer Lieutenant Earnest Goodbody, with John Lennon (Musketeer Gripweed), Jack MacGowran (Musketeer Juniper) Roy Kinnear (Musketeer Clapper) and Lee Montague (Sergeant Transom) as soldiers under his command. The film uses an inconsistent variety of styles — vignette, straight–to–camera, and, extensively, parody of the war film genre, docu-drama, and popular war literature — to tell the story of 3rd Troop, the 4th Musketeers (a fictional regiment reminiscent of the Royal Fusiliers) and their misadventures in the Second World War. This is told in the comic/absurdist vein throughout, a central plot being the setting-up of an “Advanced Area Cricket Pitch” behind enemy lines in Tunisia, but it is all broadly based on the landings in North Africa in 1942 to the advance on the Rhine following Arnhem.

[edit] Principal Character and Plot

The main character, Lieutenant Goodbody, is an inept, idealistic, naïve, and almost relentlessly jingoistic wartime–commissioned (not regular) officer. One of the main subversive themes in the film must be the platoon’s repeated attempts or temptations to kill or otherwise rid themselves of their complete liability of a commander. In fact, with dead-weight heavy ironics, while Lieutenant Goodbody’s ineptitude and attempts at derring-do lead to the gradual demise of his entire unit, Goodbody survives, together with one of his charges who finishes the film confined to psychiatric care and the unit’s persistent deserter. In a heavy macabre device, each deceased soldier is replaced by a silent, ghostly figure in complete period uniform whose face is obscured by netting, and whose uniform from head to toe is brightly coloured red / green / orange etc.

[edit] Narrative and Themes

Goodbody narrates the film retrospectively, more or less, while in conversation with his German officer captor, 'Odlebog', at the Rhine bridgehead in 1945. From their duologue emerges another key source of subversion — the two officers are in fact united in their class attitudes and officer-status contempt for (and ignorance of) their men. While they admit that the question of the massacre of Jews might divide them, they equally admit that it is not of prime concern to either of them. Goodbody’s jingoistic patriotism finally relents when he accepts his German counterpart’s accusation of being, in principle, a Fascist. They then resolve to settle their disagreements on a commercial basis (Odlebog proposes selling Goodbody the last intact bridge over the Rhine), (in the novel this is identified as Remegen) which could be construed as a satire on unethical business practices and Capitalism. This sequence also appears in the novel. Fascism amongst the British is previously mentioned when Gripweed (Lennon's character) is revealed to be a former follower of Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists, though Colonel Grapple (played by Michael Hordern) sees nothing for Gripweed to be embarrassed about, stressing that "Fascism is something you grow out of".

How I Won the War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

I have to politely disagree that Casablanca shouldn't be on the list I agree it's a love story but the background is about World War II. Not everything in that happened in the war is about soldiers. There were refugees, too. And that is why I think Casablanca fits the bill. Maybe I'm biased about this film because it's one of my favorites.
Though I am disappointed that Longest Day nor Tora, Tora Tora didn't make the author's list, he did admit that his list was a subjective one. Since he included Casablanca and Enemy at the Gates, I think one of his criteria is entertainment value. It seems historical accuracy was not a high priority for him. Still, his list is a good listing of very watchable movies.

Thank you JC ;-)) I might give this one a try at some point. ;-))

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Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

My pleasure. I need to pick it up on DVD for my collection.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Reminds me of a quote of the Marquess of Salisbury. He was speaking of the RAF's area bombing of German cities...

"Of course the Germans started it, but we do not take the devil for our example."

My favorite war movies are probably Saving Private Ryan and Zulu. A Bridge Too Far is also very well done.

I dont like most war movies... If Band of Brothers counts it definitely deserves a mention.

No comprehensive list of WW2 movies can be complete without the inclusion of "Wake" and "Battle Cry"

I think a must see WW2 movie is Battle of Britain. I'm not going to pretend to be a be all end all tower of WW2 knowledge, but the movie depicts how the battle of the skies over England wore on the pilots who fought this battle. If I was to teach a world history class, this movie would be in the curriculum along with Tora Tora Tora, Sink the Bismarck, The Longest Day, and Patton.

Another movie in the World History curriculum would be the post WW2 movie The Big Lift. The movie realistically depicts bombed out Berlin and the new uneasy alliance between residents of Berlin and US soldiers and airmen who are flying in the city's lifeblood of supplies.

An excellent Sunday afternoon, it's cold and wet outside, movie is Where Eagles Dare. I can't begin to imagine it's realistic, but the script is crisp and intelligent. There are stand out performances from Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton, and the tramway hopping sequence is excellent action drama.

Another movie of this caliber is Force Ten From Navarone. This movie came out the summer after the surprise hit Star Wars (Episode Four). Harrison Ford starred in both movies and catapaulted Harrison to a string of leading man roles. Not realistic, but like the above movie it has a superb scipt and great performances from leading actors Ford and Robert Shaw.

Kelly's Heroes is great in the respect that the person in charge of the movie's logistics pulled off a heroic feat. Whereas Patton put together excellent battle sequences with wrong period tanks, Kelly's Heroes put together authentic period vehicles, like tanks, trucks, and amphibious trucks. The Vietnam War dialogue takes away from the movie's credibility making this a guilty pleasure intead of a WW2 must see.

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What about the Movies; Cross of Iron, the Russian films: Liberation, and They Fought for their Motherland. All are my fav.

A Bridge to Far?

I'd like to add "Hell is For Heroes" to the list. It is a little known and much forgotten production. For an older movie (made in the early 60s I believe), it was very graphic for it's time, and well made. Steve McQueen really carried this movie as the war-weary veteran who excelled on the line but couldn't hack it in the rear areas.

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On the Plains of Hesitation
lies the blackend bones of countless millions
who, at the dawn of victory sat down to rest,
and resting died....
(author unknown-I wish it was me)

This movie is excellent!!

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I like that way you think....

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On the Plains of Hesitation
lies the blackend bones of countless millions
who, at the dawn of victory sat down to rest,
and resting died....
(author unknown-I wish it was me)

gallipoli

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I've always liked the following, in no particular order:
The Great Escape
Bridge on the River Kwai (always gives me a chill)
Das Boot (scary as hell)
Stalag 17
Best Years of our Lives
The Dirty Dozen (I know it's hokey, but I like it.)

I guess they don't qualify as the best, but they are ones I've watched and enjoyed many times.
Lou

Another vote here for A Bridge too far, I've watched it twice over the last two weeks. Awesome film.

all quiet on western front

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I'd have to throw in a vote for "A Bridge Too Far" as well. As a kid growing up in the 70's this is the movie, more than any other, that really rooted my interest in military history and WWII specifically. Since then I've seen many other war movies that entertained or educated more than this one but, this one will always stand out to me.

I can't believe no has said the Sound of Music yet. Someone always brings up the Sound of Music in these polls. I'm forced to watch the film everyone so often by wife.

Thank God for that. I'm 62 and have never seen the Sound of Music. God willing, I'll go to my grave in the same condition.

Lou

A vote for Downfall too. The best movie I have ever seen to this day.

This film is incredible and surprisingly accurate (except for the German tanks, or course). However, little flaws like that can be overlooed when you see how far the producers and actors went to get the stories as accurate as possible.

I think to a large extent they definitely succeeded, even though the harsh US critics degraded it and made it less successful in America.

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I feel for ya, Mullet. My wife doesn't care for it so thankfully it is passed over when playing here. I am, however, stuck with watching Grease everytime it graces the airwaves, even though she own the DVD. I hate it about as much, which is odd for I like some musicals.

Stay firm. Sixty-two years is a long record to break when you have worked so hard over the years to make it thus far.

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