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October 3rd, 2008, 04:06 AM
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Re: Miracle at St. Anna
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It shows a member of the resistance collaborating with the Nazis and failing to warn the villagers of the Germans' advance.
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Of course, how else can he rag on the white man?
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Re: Miracle at St. Anna
I've read early reviews that Spike Lee couldn't direct a battle scene if his life depended on it. I'm looking forward to Valkyrie and Inglorious Bastards a lot more.
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October 3rd, 2008, 11:44 PM
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I wonder which move was more "fiction" "Miracle" or "Flags"?
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And we know what that answer is ;-D don't we? ;-D
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October 3rd, 2008, 11:56 PM
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And we know what that answer is ;-D don't we? ;-D
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Yup. LOL 
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October 4th, 2008, 12:31 AM
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Of course, how else can he rag on the white man?
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I guess to him all "Whites" are the same ? LOL
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October 4th, 2008, 11:33 PM
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I hear ya on both accounts. That guy sure is tunnel-visioned to the max.
Heh heh, this thread about his movie is probably more popular than the actual movie itself 
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October 5th, 2008, 12:39 AM
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I hear ya on both accounts. That guy sure is tunnel-visioned to the max.
Heh heh, this thread about his movie is probably more popular than the actual movie itself 
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I have to agree with that LOL.
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October 5th, 2008, 10:50 PM
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I wonder what his movie has made thus far? I bet he hasn't made much if any-of a profit.
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October 6th, 2008, 01:59 AM
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Estimated as of today is $6,334,000 . A little about half of that the opening weekend. Looks like its gone down quite a bit over the last 10 days. I think the budget was about 45 million.
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October 6th, 2008, 04:03 AM
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He sure wont be making a profit from this. Was it worth it to his ego?
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Re: Miracle at St. Anna
I just went and saw the movie this evening. Overall I think it was well done, it did drag a lot... and took a while to put everything together. The acting was pretty well done also. Aside from getting a headache halfway through the movie, and my ass falling asleep... I would say, wait till it comes out on DVD or to a cheap theatre to see it!
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October 6th, 2008, 07:53 PM
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Well I bet this movie wont be shown along with his other "Classics" in movie classes LOL.
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October 6th, 2008, 08:36 PM
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I didn't like how it was spitting racism out from the start. Opening scene has the main character watching 'The Longest Day' and comments on how there aren't any black people in the movie. Now, I am not sure, but I am pretty sure they didn't have mixed units back then (thus the Buffalo Soldiers unit) so I don't see what the fuss was about?
Not to mention that 'Black' Divisions didn't make up the majority of the US Forces, so clearly they didn't go through the same sorts of things. Anyways, a few things I didn't like about the movie: [Make that 13 things I didn't like about the movie.]
[[[SPOILER WARNING: Do not read on if you wish the movie to remain a mystery]]]
1. It had nothing to do with St. Anna. (Unless I am mistaken here, St. Anna was where the Germans rounded up the civvies and killed them, and was not the actual place the fighting in the movie took place).
2. The 'Statue Head' that sparks the whole story didn't come from the area either (I would have expected it's capture to be part of the movie).
3. "Lets stand in a River while everyone is shooting us, while the 4 main characters are the only ones who try to seek protection!"
4. "I have a thommy, you have a thommy, everyone has a thommy!" (Of the 3 PFCs - only the one guy was an NCO, only one had Rifle. Everyone and their mother had a Thompson).
5. The Germans yelling "Kill those blacks!" in the end scene even though they hadn't seen them yet.
6. The 'Traitor' escaping. And "Peppi" never revealing why he is a self-proclaimed "Murderer".
7. Why the Italian boy was more scared of "Peppi" and not the "Traitor".
8. Why does every Civilian in the movie have to get killed?
9. Why grenades are not fragmentation grenades, instead causing those with in 20 yards to fly through the air and over walls when the grenades go off.
10. Why the 88's and other Artillery Pieces had no moving parts, and just puffs of smoke came out of their barrels.
11. How a Thompson is accurate over 100 yards, picking off Germans hiding on the reverse side of a roof.
12. Why no one tried to hide in a building during the end scene, instead choosing to run through the streets like chickens with their heads cut off.
13. Why the 'Traitor' didn't kill the one black guy (in the scene he kills the POW) and set the German POW free (instead of trying to kill both). AND, why didn't the black guy try to shot the Traitor when he ran off, up the hill, which he had previously been shown doing at great labor to himself?
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Thanks for the heads up Musso. Sorry you wasted your money.
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In light of the other discussions, there is some movie based in Argentina, where a woman was raped multiple times during a dark period of Argentinian history (or some South American country). She is married and never speaks of this, then one day during a storm a car breaks down and the guy comes to the house seeking help. She recognizes it as the man who raped her, especially once he says his favorite song is "XXX", which he played every time he raped her (and other woman who had been arrested). She plans on killing him, but ultimately doesn't, though reveals that he was the one who raped her (he now has a family).
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Well I was lucky enough that I went at 1PM so only paid $5 to see it.
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Re: Miracle at St. Anna
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Opening scene has the main character watching 'The Longest Day' and comments on how there aren't any black people in the movie. Now, I am not sure, but I am pretty sure they didn't have mixed units back then (thus the Buffalo Soldiers unit) so I don't see what the fuss was about?
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5th Platoon, K Company, 394th Regiment, 99th Division was the first black unit integrated with a white infantry company. That did not happen until March of 1945. You can read about the unit in Blood for Dignity, by David P. Colley.
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Exactly. So why make a big song and dance about 'The Longest Day' which portrays events that didn't involve Black Units? Sure, they served in the Army long before they were allowed to play combative roles, but movies about Cooks and people doing the Laundry...well, who wants to see a movie about that?
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