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Old October 17th, 2003, 11:54 AM
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I don't know if this already has been discussed (I didn't find a thread about it).

It were 3 months from Germany's capitulation to the bombing of Hiroshima. Consider that the German's also worked on the bomb...

Did their scientific findings influence the construction of the American bomb a great deal?

Were parts (how much?) of the uranium dropped on Hrioshima of German origin?

With Germany resisting longer, how long would it have needed to finish the bomb?
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I will repost my comments from this, posted on this exact topic in the What-If section.

"When the war ended, Germany had not even managed to make a sustainable reaction, and their plans for a reactor were not only non-functional, they were idiotic. The US had created its first sustainable reaction on December 2, 1942 at the University of Chicago. German technology was not only hopelessly behind, but their theoretical and practical models were entirely wrong. Had the Germans attempted to create a sustained reaction, they would have cascaded and irradiated the lab, likely killing its occupants. (The German ‘control’ process involved throwing lumps of coal into the reaction chamber)

As for extra Uranium, the Germans had a pitifully small amount of Uranium; in fact the reason they had not yet attempted a sustained reaction was a lack of fissile materiel. They DID have a great deal of unprocessed Uranium Ore, but firstly most of this was taken by the Soviets, and secondly the US had more Uranium or than it could use, processing it into fissile materiel was the hard part.

The failed German atomic bomb project data contributed not at all to the Manhattan project. It was not only three years behind, but in many cases completely wrong."
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Old October 17th, 2003, 01:46 PM
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Yep, the Germans were doing it wrong in the first place and could not make a bomb anyway.

But how about the Japs?? I have been reading that they had something going on..? Could they have made something if they had the time and sources?

From a site:

"In 1942 a large facility and second cyclotron was built in Kyoto Japan but it all came to and end in April 1945 for saturation bombing destroyed the buildings housing the apparatus, but not the cyclotrons. "

"Had the Japanese proceeded faster and the buildings escaped destruction from allied bombings, they would have built an atomic bomb to use on the United States, for that was their objective. "

http://pearlharborsurvivorsonline.or...atomicbomb.htm

http://sandysq.gcinet.net/uss_salt_l...5/atombomb.htm
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I have read Kai's thread about U-234 now:
http://www.ww2forums.com/cgi-bin/ubb...=000059#000000

It is stil debated how much this German uranium helped the Americans; according to this site, not much: http://www.antenna.nl/wise/447/4440.html

However, it's quite a funny coincidence that U-234 transported U-235. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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