The following is an excerpt from Eric Mombeek's book "Defending the Reich: The History of Jagdgeschwader 1 - Oesau"

http://www.jg54greenhearts.com/Philip.htm

Reichmarshall Goring issued the following edict after an 8th AF raid on October 4, 1943:

1.There are no meterological conditions which would prevent fighters from taking off and engaging in combat.

2.Every fighter pilot taking off in a machine not showing any sign of combat, or without having recorded a victory will be prosecured by a court-martial.

3.In the case of where a pilot uses up his ammunition, or if his weapons are unusable, he should ram the enemy bomber.

Kommodore Philipp's response: "As far as I'm concerned, I categorically refuse to allow myself to be held to such advice; I know what I have to do!"

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Not only did Axis prisoners of war in Britain receive the same ration amounts as British servicemen, if they escaped and were recaptured, they were entitled to double rations "to build them up after privations!"

RJ Hammond; Food vol. 2; Studies in Administration & Control p623
(London. HMSO. 1956)

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" Ehrenwinkel "

http://www.answerway.com/viewans.php...02&ansid=79584

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I was looking up information on the Martin Maryland and found information on this middle east battle I had not know about. Several thousand died but the History Channel has ignored it so far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria-Lebanon_campaign

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All i can add to this thread is...WOW !

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Texas can make it without the United States...But the United States cant make it without Texas!

Now thats an embarrasing statement!!

Is History Channel your only reference source??

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Whe're off to see the Wizard, the wonderful wizard of OZ - 6 Australian Infantry Div, Bardia January 1941

I was being sarcastic.

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Generallieutnant Wever was killed in an aircrash on June 3, 1936 in an Heinkle 70 communications aircraft.

In the cockpit of the He-70 was a lever to secure the ailerons while parked on the ground. Weaver forgot about the lever and took off with the ailerons locked.

Wever was a supporter of a long range bomber for the Luftwaffe and was Chief of General Staff at the time of his death.

296 He-70 aircraft were built, some used in Spain.

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What's wrong with the History Channel? Where else would you learn about the American participation (and victory too...) in this conflict, with some Eastern Front footage thrown in as well?

If this were in Discovery, you would also be told a bit about the some German Überflugzeuge (go to www.luft46.com and take your pick) based in Lebanon too.

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Well, giving the History Channel dead horse a couple more whacks, I say that quality may vary somewhat, it depends on the particular show. I've recently seen shows with very interesting guests speaking, like Jim Dunnigan, Ian Kershaw, Matthew Bennet, Steve Badsey, Ian Fletcher...

One of my tricks to get my wife nuts is while watching saying "Hey, I have a couple of books by that fellow!"

They deserve credit for the effort, HC was much worse than it is now.

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from Yeide "Tank killers"

The 3-inch gun proved to be a particularly effective in certain artillery roles. It was best at long-range missions because of the guns great range and the round´s flat trajectory which would endanger friendly troops if fired at targets too close to the front lines. The 3-inch gun was better than the 105mm Howitzer for shelling roads over which American troops planned to advance because the former left almost no crater but had a similar burst radius to the bigger round.

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This site may have been listed before but I found it interesting to read again.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/facts.html

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Yeide "Tank Killers"

There were teething problems, of course. Before the training centers were established, units trained where and as they could.The 667th, 803d and 899th Tank Destroyer Battalions initially pooled their resources and in March 1942 established a joint training center at Fort Lewis, Washington. The 628th may have set a record for training on simulated guns- eleven months- before having an opportunity to fire some borrowed 75 mm guns in November 1942.

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I just watched the last part of a germen 3 part dokumentary from 2003,with a lot of veterans. After the surrender on 31 Jan, 1943, a secret Russian report stated that at least 10000 german soldiers fourght on, hiding in cellers and sours. The fighting was over in the start of Marts.

I must admit i too found it hard to believe that hess memorial stone but then i started to think about and the only things i could think of that he could have easily killed himself trying to do it, especially at night and had he succeeded in his quest lives would have been saved. Also if Hitler had found out what hess was up to he probably would have been shot. On the other hand you dont become a top Nazi by being a nice person now do you?

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www.famousconflicts.com

That Hess memorial stone (I take it that it's at Eaglesham?) is a new one. The original one was just an inscribed block lying almost flush with the ground. Members of the Anti-Nazi League smashed it live on national TV news about 15 years ago, in a protest about "Neo Nazis". Now, the stone had already been there for decades at that point.
Better still; the spokesman for the group- and guy who wielded the sledgehammer- is now a human rights lawyer, in the media daily for defending people's liberties.
Work that one out.........

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In the First World War the Services had been widely accused of resistance on principle to all new ideas, but no such charge could be laid against them in 1940. Indeed, they proved willing to try almost anything. The P.A.C. apparatus had already shown what fantastic feats of ingenuity the Air Ministry was prepared to incorporate in our defensive system, but even this was overshadowed by the 'long aerial mine'. Under pressure from the Prime Minister and the Admiralty, much time and energy was expended on this weapon, which was nevertheless given tee somewhat discouraging code-name of 'Mutton'. It consisted of 2,000 feet of piano wire with a parachute at the top end and a small bomb at the bottom. The intention was to unspool a number of these contraptions from patrolling aircraft, so that they formed an apron in the predicted path of the enemy bombers. When a raider struck one of the wires the pull of the parachute would bring the bomb up against his wing where it would explode.

Many tedious hours, with occasional interlude of unpleasant excitement, were spent by the test pilots of the Royal Aircraft Establishment flying into practice weapons of this character.1 By October No. 420 Flight (later No. 93 Squadron), Middle Wallop, was detailed to employ 'Mutton' operationally. In spite of great efforts on the part of scientists and aircrew alike the project enjoyed singularly little success, and after the main enemy assault was over it was officially abandoned. A similar lack of success met the attempt to operate a free-balloon barrage—a curtain of bombs suspended by wire from balloons released in the path of the enemy. Both ideas failed, not from technical imperfection, but from the sheer immensity of space open to the attackers.

It was also during this period that Wing Commander W. Helmore's proposal for an airborne searchlight came to the fore. The scheme involved fitting a suitable light in an A.I. aircraft, and then operating this for the benefit of an accompanying fighter, which would carry out the actual attack. The technical problems involved were formidable, and though the device was developed with exceptional speed, it was not until the enemy's main offensive against this country had ended that 'Turbinlite' aircraft were ready for use. Ten flights were then rapidly fitted, but the difficulty of cooperating with the
attendant fighter and the inherent imperfections of searchlights in thick weather prevented any great success.

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar//UN/...K-RAF-I-7.html

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The Luftwaffe made a feature film about the bombing of Warsaw, called "Baptism of fire", Göring himself introduced it....

From Derek Robinson "Invasion 1940"

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From McCombs et al "World War II facts"

Michelin

French tire manufacturer who published road guides that were used by the British Expiditionary Forces to find their way to Dunkirk because the B.E.F. could not get adequate tactical maps from the War Department. One officer, Major Cyril Barclay, bought 80 maps in one of the small French villages and successfully led his unit to Dunkirk, but the War Office refused to reimburse him because " regulations offer no provision for an officer to buy maps on active service".

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I read the same thing happened when the US invaided Grenada. The ground forces had to buy maps of the place at tourist shops. The Army did not provide any maps.

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http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=1065

General Frank M. Andrews

In February 1943 Lt. Gen. Andrews became the commander of all United States forces in the European Theater of Operations. In his memoirs, Gen H.H. "Hap" Arnold, commander of the Army Air Forces in WWII, expressed the belief that General Andrews would have been given the command of the Allied invasion of Europe -- the position that eventually went to Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower.


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Interesting....What if no Monty and no Ike in command...

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I read from McCombs et al facts of WW2 book that FDR´s pistol that he kept under the pillow was called "His" and his wife´s "Hers"....

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Hastings " Bomber Command"

The Germans put up nineteen aircraft in support of every German division attacking France in 1940, and twenty-six aircraft for every division invading Russia a year later. On D-day the Allies launched 260 aircraft for every division landing...

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Great information. Keep it coming!

From McCombs et al "interesting facts of WW2..."

Klim

Name given to the powdered milk used by the American forces throughout WW2. ( Klim is milk spelled backwards)

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