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Old October 13th, 2005, 05:52 PM
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From William L. Shirer’s ‘Life in the Third Reich, 1933-1937’ in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Crest Books, N. Y., 1960. p. 345-346.

«The teaching of the natural sciences, in which Germany had been so pre-eminent for generations, deteriorated rapidly. Great teachers such as Einstein and Franck in physics, Haber, Willstätter and Warburg in chemistry, were fired or retired. Those who remained, many of them, were bitten by the Nazi aberrations and attempted to apply them to pure science. They began to teach what they called German physics, German chemistry, German mathematics. Indeed, in 1937 there appeared a journal called Deutsche Mathematik, and its first editorial solemnly proclaimed that any idea that mathematics could be judged nonracially carried ‘within itself the germs of destruction of German science’.
The hallucinations of these Nazi scientists became unbelievable, even to a layman. ‘German Physics?’, asked Professor Philipp Lenard of Heidelberg University, who was one of the more learned and internationally respected scientists of the Third Reich. ‘"But", it will be replied, "science is and remains international". It is false, in reality, science like every other human product, is racial and conditioned by blood’. Professor Rudolphe Tomaschek, director of the Institute of Physics at Dresden, went further. ‘Modern Physics’, he wrote, ‘is an instrument of [world] Jewry for the destruction of Nordic science… True physics is the creation of German spirit… In fact, all European science is the fruit of Aryan, or, better, German thought’. Preofessor Johannes Stark, head of the German National Institute of Physical Science, thought so too. It would be found, he said, that the ‘founders of research in physics, and the great discoveries from Galileo to Newton to the physical pioneers of our time, were almost exclusively Aryan, predominantly of the Nordic race’.
There was also Professor Wilhelm Müller, of the Technical College of Aachen, who in a book entitled Jewry and Science saw a world-wide Jewish plot to pollute science and thereby destroy civilisation. To him Einstein, with his theory of relativity, was the archvillain. The Einstein theory, on which so much of modern physics is based, was to this singular Nazi professor ‘directed from beginning to end toward the goal of transforming the living—that is, the non Jewish—world of living essence, born from a mother earth and bound up with blood, and bewitching it into spiritual abstraction in which all individual differences of peoples and nations, and all inner limits of the races, are lost in unreality, and in which only an unsubstantial diversity of geometric dimensions survives which produces all events out of compulsion of its godless subjection to laws’. The world-wide acclaim given to Einstein on the publication of his theory of relativity, Professor Müller proclaimed, was really only a rejoicing over ‘the approach of Jewish world rule which was to force down manhood irrevocably and eternally to the level of lifeless slave’.
To Professor Ludwig Bieberback, of the University of Berlin, Einstein was ‘an alien mountebank’. Even to Professor Lenard, ‘the Jew conspicuously lacks understanding for the truth„ being in this respect in contrast to the Aryan research scientist with his careful and serious will to truth„ Jewish physics is thus a phantom and a phenomenon of degeneration of fundamental German Physics’.

[Quotes from Philip Lenard’s Deutsche Physik, preface; Wallace Duel’s People Under Hitler and William Ebenstein’s The Nazi State].»

Thus, because of this, Germany (and Austria!) deprived herself of (and I won't even mention the many gentiles who left Germany por ideological or political reasons, like Thomas Mann, Nobel Prize of Literature 1929):

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  • Sir Ernst Boris Chain, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1945.</font>
  • Konrad Bloch, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1964.</font>
  • Paul Ehrlich, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1908.</font>
  • Sir Bernard Katz, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1970.</font>
  • Sir Hans Adolf Krebs, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1953.</font>
  • Fritz Lipmann, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1953.</font>
  • Otto Loewi, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1936.</font>
  • Eric R. Kandel, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 2000.</font>
  • Otto Meyerhof, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1922.</font>
  • Otto Warburg, Nobel Prize of Medicine and Physiology 1931.</font>
  • Max Born, Nobel Prize of Physics 1954.</font>
  • Albert Einstein, Nobel Prize of Physics 1921.</font>
  • James Franck, Nobel Prize of Physics 1925.</font>
  • Gustav Ludwig Hertz, Nobel Prize of Physics 1925.</font>
  • Fritz Haber, Nobel Prize of Chemistry 1918.</font>
  • Adolf von Baeyer, Nobel Prize of Chemistry 1905.</font>
  • Otto Wallach, Nobel Prize of Chemistry 1910.</font>
  • Richard Willstätter, Nobel Prize of Chemistry 1915.</font>
'Perverted' Jewish science…

[ 13. October 2005, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: General der Infanterie Friedrich H ]
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That sure take self-absorption to a new level. It was one thing to try to point to your ancestors and peers as talented and trying to brag about it. The notion that a certain breed was solely responsible. [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]

The depth of their deliusion was not fully appreciated.
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Good point the German people were brain washed by the Nazi leadership and by the end of 1940 it looked like they were indeed the master race at this time German scientists were ahead of the rest of the world and it was in 1940 Hitler made cut backs to long term research this was a fatal error of judgement and by the end of 1942 it was becoming clear the tide was turning against them the cost of brain washing had in the long term gone against themselves granted German scientists were making up for lost time but to little to late.
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... and by the end of 1940 it looked like they were indeed the master race at this time German scientists were ahead of the rest of the world ...
Can you please extend and clarify?
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The German war machine had swept away the allies in the west they felt on top of the world no one can beat us more to do with better equipment and training and radical thinking. Brainwashing the belief they were the master race was in the long term to back fire on them along the lines the dream came a vision which turned in to a nightmare.

German scientists were ahead of the allies but when Hitler made cut backs this was be a bad move it is believed if this was not the case new weapons would have reached the front line quicker EG 1942 The Panther Tank & 1943 The ME-262 Jet Fighter along with The Type XXI U-Boat and so on.

When Hitler ordered long term cut backs this gave the Allies the chance to catch up of course there is the other side of the coin German research in the area of the A-Bomb was well behind just a well it was.
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This topic is about Science, not technology, much less military prowess; therefore I still fail to see how "German scientists were ahead of the rest of the world" in terms of pure science. This is a pretty sweeping statement, exactly which branch/branches of scientific thought do you mean?

Perhaps this will do as a primer Deutsch Physik unless you mean other branches such as entomology or even another very interesting approch such as this, encompassing very useful research on human body behaviour on high altitude, freezing, malaria, bone regeneration, typhus, etc.
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Well in that area no they were not ahead of the world and yes there research was perverted by Nazi thinking and proved to be at the end of the day pointless. [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]
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