The Expulsion Edit is well know and beyond dispute Rodi, as is the power and influence of the Roman Catholic Church in Spain. I have never been under the impression the persecution, as such, continued past the 1800’s at the latest. I do not have a problem with accepting there was/could very well have been, a discrepancy between an official stance and reality.

I am aware in Italy, for example, Catholic priests are formally celibate as their religion dictates. In reality many have girlfriends which is quite an open secret though the church would never say as much. I am not contending there were extensive Jewish communities in Spain at the time of WWII, (or at other times come to that), but I believe there were several thousand at least who practised their religion, and were allowed to do so, provided they did not incur confrontation with the Catholic Church. All my books on Franco and Spain are currently boxed away, and will be for some time, so I can’t offer any quoted examples from them. However, it was not hard to find web references from reasonably substantial sources.

Viz:
Rabbi Yitschak Rudomin – Jewish Professionals Institute

World Association of International Studies

Am Yisrael – Jews in Spain

No.9

If I'm Hitler, I'm hoping I can throw the allies back into the sea on D-Day, set them back, move troops to the eastern front, fight to a standstill, convince Stalin that he won't win without the allies, get an uneasy peace, build up my forces, blitzkreig Russia, meet up with Japan and wait for another invasion attempt on the continent.

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1.blitzkreig won't work in russia because of its size.
2.japan is in no position to attack the russians as long as china and u.s. is in the war.
3.nobody can convince Stalin anything.
4.just how you can throw 16 million allies back within one battle?

Very optimistic view point that one LuckyJack

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Regards, Richard

Ironcross: well put, succint and to the point!

No.9: as I confess Jewish history in Spain in the XXth Century is not quite my most brilliant field, and it appears to me that you yourself don't exactly shine here, what if we both agree to throw in the towel simultaneously?

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Hey, if I'm Hitler, I also have a huge ego. I never said it would work, but I'm sure he'd try it if he could.

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Hey

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Regards, Richard

Rodi, I am no expert on the Jews in Spain and have not claimed to be. I have done my reading on general European history and particularly on the Spanish Civil War because of it’s relationship to WWII and to quantify that relationship - in my mind at any rate. Outside of this I have no affiliation with either the Jews or Spain – which happens to be somewhere very low on my revisit list as it happens.

I think all this has come about because of an opinion of John Toland in his 900 page plus work on Hitler which I referred to, about Franco, historically, being of Jewish extraction. I also said; ”I do not believe a Jewish issue was at the forefront of events in Spain during WWII”. If you want to believe there wasn’t even; ”a shadow of a Jew” in Spain, I’m very happy to leave it at that. [img]smile.gif[/img]

No.9

Stalemate declared

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