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September 24th, 2007, 06:12 PM
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Defeating German Tanks Article
Not sure if this has ever been posted here so I shall put up the link for it, I was snooping around for info and stumbled on this one. I found it interesting reading.
Defeating German Tanks
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September 24th, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
What an exceptionally strange article.
It reads like a report done for school by some teenagers? Or an account of a computer game.
Sorry Richard, seriously no offence mate, but it appears to be cobbled together from brief readings of very basic information leading to enormous generalisations, misconceptions... and overall 'wrongness'. It's almost like they've skimmed off snippets from assorted forums without really understanding them... hmmm.
Aha, I see from it's parent page that it's something to do with an online game, role-playing or wargame, I'm not sure?:
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Sorry for being so negative... but It's full of the kind of stuff I find myself fending off so often, perpetuating the 'tank myths' that haunt my favourite subject.
I'll get my coat...
Cheers,
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September 24th, 2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
Nice, though a tad inaccurate.
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September 24th, 2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
A load of rubbish. The lads behind this are not serious. The article is full of myths. No statistical data to back up their 'findings'.
A good example is the tank losses due to infantry AT. It was in the region 5-7% up until the battles in Germany where it jumped up to 36% (numbers for the British army) but then only because AT guns were becoming scarse.
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September 24th, 2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
Von poop,
As I said interesting but I too found very odd and it just dose not add up, as you said looks like it's been cobbled together without backing up there case.
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Von poop,
Thanks for the link I just been reading a few more articles and even those don't add up so I agree with you and no point going any further on this one.
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September 24th, 2007, 07:56 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
I stopped reading about halfway down. It is very inaccurate (and I'm being nice). It states that in 43 the Tigers, Panthers and mkIVs were just getting MGs for close quarter protection. 
I think not Not enough details and explanations for their assumptions.
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September 24th, 2007, 08:13 PM
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That's what's good about the Internet. One could even found a religion whose base tenet is that the sun is square.
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September 24th, 2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
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September 24th, 2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
6th, perhaps 7th grade, an excellent book report that few would be able (at that age) to retort.
It should stay there.
Tiger 2, ultimate weapon ? All 50 Porsche, and 439 Henschel won every time ? Unstoppable ?
An Infantryman's "Pep-Talk" ?
Interesting what some think they know.
A synopsis of every WW 2 tank picture "caption", and conjectured truth from there.
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October 1st, 2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
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I stopped reading about halfway down. It is very inaccurate (and I'm being nice). It states that in 43 the Tigers, Panthers and mkIVs were just getting MGs for close quarter protection. 
I think not Not enough details and explanations for their assumptions.
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October 2nd, 2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: Defeating German Tanks Article
This is awsome, it has made my day. You all should really get to know Mr. Leigh Miller Leigh Miller's Archives
"I am well-educated and well-spoken in English. Besides experience in International (Japanese) Consulting, Education, and Coaching, I am an aspiring Comic Artist.
I am a valuable commodity and should be hired. Hobbies include sports, history, reading, drawing, philosophical brainstorming, and strategy gaming. I will move to suit profitable employment. Due to a spinal injury, I am unable to teach full-time 8 hours a day anymore. Ideally I would like to work as a consultant/advisor for a Japanese company and coach football or hockey. Teaching english is also interested in. "
I feel bad for the guy and kind of wish I had a job to give him.
Maybe someone here can help. 
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