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This thread reminds me of one of Don Stiver's excellent paintings. Don Stiver's did a painting that showed both German and American Medics helping each other out with wounded from both sides, during; the Battle of the Bulge. Sorry I don't have a link to his painting but, it can be found on his web site and or on David Pentland's website.

Excellent photos BTW.
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Quite welcome and please try: www.donstivors.com which I hope is a working link.
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I tried the link Carl and I'm afraid it didn't work for me.
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I tried the link Carl and I'm afraid it didn't work for me.
Hi Skipper, which link did you try? The one I go to all the time is: Military Art Prints of David Pentland and once inside, you can do a search for Don Stivors. I can't remember if his BoB painting is still shown on Pentland's site but, I know it was still shown on Stivors site. I can't remember if this is the exact link or not but try: www.donstivors.com Ill try to look around as soon as I have more time and will get you that link ;-))

A hint on Don Stivors is that he mainly does US Civil War paintings-which are excellent. I like him much better than Don Trioni - though Trioni is an excellent artist as well.
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it works now Carl and it's well worth having a look. God what beauties and probably thousands of hours of drawing!
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it works now Carl and it's well worth having a look. God what beauties and probably thousands of hours of drawing!

Hi Skipper, glad you saw it. His artwork is excellent isn't it? ;-)) I want to order a print but don't know when thats going to be feasable. I've been a Stivors fan for about 25 years now.
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Waffen SS Soldat helping the Russian gets my vote as best pic.
Second is the US Medic whow as too late to save the German soldier, the medic looks physically sick and in despair that he could do nothing..

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Wow, this is a great thread with some amazing photos. It's nice that even in the most inhumane thing such as war, we can see small bits of goodness like this shining through.

I wonder how many friendships began from countless moments just like these?
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Wow, this is a great thread with some amazing photos. It's nice that even in the most inhumane thing such as war, we can see small bits of goodness like this shining through.

I wonder how many friendships began from countless moments just like these?

Thanks! Now I'm back on I gonna post more pictures!

Is Everybody Happy ?! :P
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More information on the Canadian Private in Italy:

"Private B.D. Flynn of the Regimental Aid Party, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, Catona, Italy, 21 December 1943."
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Default Helping Enemy - B-17 and Luftwaffe

Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group atKimbolton,England. His B-17 was called 'Ye Old Pub' and was in a terrible state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to Kimbolton.

After flying over an enemy airfield, a German pilot named Franz Steigler was ordered to take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not believe his eyes. In his words, he 'had never seen a plane in such a bad state'. The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there were holes everywhere .

Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at Charlie Brown, the pilot. Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged and blood-stained plane.

Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to and slightly over the North Sea towards England He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned away, back to Europe.

When Franz landed he told the C/O that the plane had been shot down over the sea, and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.

More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who saved the crew. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.

They met in the USA at a 379th. Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who are alive now - all because Franz never fired his guns that day.
Research shows that Charlie Brown lived in Seattle and Franz Steigler had moved toVancouver, BC after the war. When they finally met, they discovered they had lived less than 200 miles apart for the past 50 years!
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Wonderful thread. As has been mentioned it is wonderful to see pictures and read stories of times when the best of humanity was being shown when it was least expected.

Brianx13, I like the preceding story about Charlie Brown and Franz Steigler. Other good stories on the thread, as well. I shall see what I can find in some of my references.

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Found a nice picture for you Sturmkreuz:

German Panzer man (I think) showing the way to a (Russian or Balkanic?) bare feet child.


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nice one Mike!
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Wow I Need More !! PHOTOS GUYS !!

I've another one. Sorry My internet is just one hell-of-a #@é&ù
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I will post more later, they are hard to find, but I believe I have one on an external hard disc.
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I will post more later, they are hard to find, but I believe I have one on an external hard disc.
Indeed. But many have to see them!
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A nice story indeed. These stories are rather rare. They were more common in the airforce when a pilot would sometimes escort a crippled enemy to safety.
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A nice story indeed. These stories are rather rare. They were more common in the airforce when a pilot would sometimes escort a crippled enemy to safety.
Really? Didn't knew, Thanks!
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true. I believe this order of non assistance is evoked in the film "Das Boot" when the crew want to help sailors but have strict orders not to do so.
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I have a picture in a ww1 book I have, during a ,mustard gas attack by the germans, a few allied soldier are hiding in a shellhole and one of the allies is holding his gas mask over his german captive's mouth who is bound up and is sharing it with him, how is that for helping the enemy.
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Wow these are amazing. Just goes to prove that not all German servicemen were brainwashed, fanatical Nazis that alot of people seem to think they were these days.
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Wow these are amazing. Just goes to prove that not all German servicemen were brainwashed, fanatical Nazis that alot of people seem to think they were these days.
Soldiers whatever uniform they were are still people. Most just do what they have to do to survive. There were fanatical Nazis, that's true. People think that way because of historical distortions brought about by popular forms of mass media.
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True, not all Germans were Nazis and not all Nazis were German. Not everybody was fanatic , even among the Nazis, take the example of Oscar Schindler who was a member of the Nazi party and who saved many people.
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