Well said.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

well, i don't think that was called for at all. you took a comment made by someone you really don't know, and made it quite personal, i think maybe you owe someone an apology, or at least explain yourself.

that's my two cents.

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Scott

No apology neaded. A lot of you go over board with your anti German BS. That was 62 yrs ago. There were crimes commited by all participants. Murder is murder,no matter who commits it. With all the crimes during and since,why are Germans alone made to look so evil? Also,I just find his posts "korny". A little over dramatic. Perhaps an axe to grind? My 2 cents also. No slander intended nor was any given.

I do not recall any of the Western allies setting up murder factories nor conducting medical experiments on civilians. Not taking prisoners is indeed an act of war but the other atrocities committed by the Germans is indeed criminal and they do deserve the 62 yrs of Anti-German BS as you put it. If you are here to be a Nazi-apologist, you are in for a surprise. You do not know to whom you are speaking with and suggest you do a little research before you accuse us of any kind of slander. Opinions are one thing. But at least keep it civil.

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Well said PzJgr. I couldn't have said it any better. I'm not going to waste my time with Adolf Junior and his fourth Reich wet dream.

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talking about speer, a few months ago german television broadcast a documentary on him. i haven't seeen it but i read some very interesting review on newpapers. it include interviews with speers sons, and they are not very kind with their father...

by the way, speer was probably the only one nazi who was not ridiculous....
NO, i,m wrong, he was funny too! just think about his crazy project of buildng a sort of vatican st.peter in berlin with a huge statue of mussolini in the middle of the square. can u imagine that??? i'm afraid for him, but this is the evidence we were looking for, he was a real nazi!!

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This is Rubbish. Stalin did not use women and children from the German population in the rebuilding of the Soviet Union, when he very well could have with a snap of a finger. No, he used the very same glorious German soldiers which had such a great time destroying the country!

A brilliant Political move by Stalin, Churchill agreed!

Also the Germans in Russian captivity were not systematically starved as the Russian POW's were.

And for your information over 4,000 Red Army soldiers were reprimanded for their treatment of German civillians. While this may sound like a drop in a bucket, it is about 4,000 more cases then the amount of Germans being punished for their treatment of Russians.


I will try to find you some sources.....

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It wasn't considered a war crime because there were no international treaties or laws prohibiting it. That's why the bombing of London, Coventry, Warsaw, Stalingrad etc were not considered war crimes either.

There were no specific laws covering aerial bombardment, the analogous laws on land and naval bombardment banned only attacks on undefended towns, meaning towns which were open to occupation by the enemy.

it seems we are getting a few of these young boys here aren't we!

hehehe, adolph jr. hehehe good one Skip!

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Those atrocities committed by the Germans were only products of total war. If you think the idea of total war is wrong, blame Clausewitz.

Good call, Ike.

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I stand by the post above you joseph jrs.

Speaking of Ike, now there was a systematic starvation of Germans.
Hey hop, even bomber (butcher)Harris took heat for Dresden. All you that condone such tactics are just as bad as the pol pots, stalins,mao's etc.

And the Germans were not repremanded? True they were put to death.
It was an order by your hero stalin to rape murder and do whatever they wanted to do. 4000? yea,right.

There sure seem to be some good candidates here to go on the list for Tail Gunner Joe!

adolph jr. heh heh goodn!

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Murder in battle is one grey area.
Murder by machine in cold blood is not.
This was a special case, & remains so:



Cheers,
Adam.

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If such an order had been given by Stalin, then the population of east Germany would be 0.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

If not so ordered, which cannot be proven, it had to have been condoned, given the large number of occurences.

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Correct, the Red Army didnt exactly greet the population with flowers in their hands but given the circustances, can you blame them?


I am not excusing what they did, but I understand why they did it.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Not at all, war is war,
Evil begat evil, in many ways.

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