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Old December 7th, 2007, 09:18 PM
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Question Does anybody know what's so special about these German Regiments?

I'll tell you the reason why im asking later but, I was wondering if any of you knowledgable Gents out there, can please possibly tell me whats so special about the following German Regiments?

Panzer Regiment 6.

Infantry Regiment 9.

Infantry Regiment 13.

Infantry Regiment 252.

Artillery Regiment 5.

Artillery Regiment 18.

Artillery Regiment 44.

Im interested in anything you know or might have to say.
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Default Re: Does anybody know what's so special about these German Regiiments?

[quote=C.Evans;253061]I'll tell you the reason why im asking later but, I was wondering if any of you knowledgable Gents out there, can please possibly tell me whats so special about the following German Regiments?

Panzer Regiment 6.

Infantry Regiment 9.

Infantry Regiment 13.

Infantry Regiment 252.

Artillery Regiment 5.

Artillery Regiment 18.

Artillery Regiment 44.

Im interested in anything you know or might have to say.

I see alot of peeking in this thread but no bites. I'll make it easier for you guys in saying that one of the abvoe mentioned Regiments was at Stalingrad but withdrawn before being oblitereated. A few others were at Kursk. Almost all of them saw extensive service on the Eastern Front. A few of these saw action to the North of Berlin, or in Berlin proper; before the end of the war. Some of these were fighting in the Courland Pocket and surrendered on May 8th. One of these regiments was created in 1943.
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Guess nobody knows?

Here's a bit about the 6th Pz Rgmt.

The 6th Panzer was part of the 3rd Panzer Division and its personnel were mainly Prussians. Other units that made up this division were: 3rd and 394th Panzergrenadier Regiments, 75th Panzer Artillery Rgmt, 3rd Kradschutzen Battalion, 327th Pz Recon & Panzerjager, Battalions 39th Pz Pioneer & Pz Nachrichten Btns. Theri base was in Berlin. These guys were known as the "Bear Division" because of its Berlin Bear emblem. On Oct 15. 1935, they were activated. At that time they also had the 5th PzBtn as part of their make-up.

They took part of the Anschluss of Austria and then in the Polish Campaign as part of Heinz Guderians 19th Corps attacking from Pomerania to Thorn in northern Poland, and thenn to Brest-Litovsk. They distinguished themselves in France when they were part of Hopners 16th Motorized corps. Next they fought in the Battle of the Albert Canal, battles south of Brussels, then the pursuit towards Dunkirk and the fall of France. In late 40, this division transferred their 5th PzRgmt to the 5th Light Div (later the 21st Pz.Div) and recieved the 394th P.G.R. in exchange.

By the winter of 40-41, this division had lost about half of it's tanks. On June 22, 1941, the 3rd Pz invaded Russia siezing the Koden Bridge. Under the command of Walter Model - who later was to be known as the "Boy Fieldmarshal" took part in the Battles of the Bialystok-Minsk Pocket and the Dnieper River crossings before being sent to the southern sector of the Eastern Front. There it helped in the encirclement of several Russian Armies consisting of 667,000 men; in the Kiev area.

During the Soviet winter offensive of 41-42, it was used as a "fire brigade" and in March 42, held Kharkov against massive Soviet attacks. Now with the 4th Pz Army, they took part in the Caucasus campaign suffering heavy losses in the battles around Mozdok. It escaped from the Kuban Peninsula, by crossing the Sea of Azov over the ice; after Rostov was threatened in January 1943.

It again suffered heavy casualties when it fought in the Battle of Kursk in July 43 and Kharkov in the Autumn of that year. It remained on the line despite its losses, and fought in the Dnieper campaign - again distinguishing itself at Kiev and in the retreat through the Ukraine. It fought its way out of the encirclement in Rumania, took part in the Hungarian campaign, and ended the war on the southern sector of the Eastern Front.

Info is from Samuel Mitchams book: "Hitler's Legions."

The other special thing is that I just acquired a nice pair of Hauptmanns shoulderboards from this unit.
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What was the commonality between the regiments?
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I wasn't sure what you were looking for.
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My guess is that these are the units that he just bought the boards for.
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Hi guys, Tik/ is partly correct. I just made a deal for shoulderboards to the listed regiments. And for the "Eastern Front guys" the above units spent most of or all of their carreers serving and fighting on the Eastern Front.

Im currently working on another deal that involves getting rank insignia from a well-known European Militaria dealer who bought these and other items from the deceased RKT's family. These boards are for the rank of Oberst in the 98th Gebirgejager Regiment of the 1st Gebirgejager Division.

More to come and images will follow after I get a new digital camera and a scanner.

And for PzJgr in particular, I am also hoping to "score" a nice pair of Panzerjager Hauptmann's boards. No unit cyphers are on these but what I do know is that these too had belonged to a Gent who served on the Eastern Front from the invasion of Russia to capitualtion of Germany.
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A bit about the 98th Gebirgejager Regiment.

The 98th Gebirgejager regiment was part of the 1st Geb/Division. This division was staffed mainly with men from Bavaria with a sprinkling of men from Austria. This division was commanded by Generalmajor Ludwig Kubler-who led it in the Polish Campaign as part of the 14th Army which saw action in the Carpathian Mountains where it distinguished itsself by capturing the Dukla Pass.

Next this division played a minor role in the French and Balkan campaigns. After that, this division crossed into Russia as part of Army Group South, participating in the battles of the Uman Pocket, Kiev, Stalino and the Dnieper Crossings.

In May 1942, it was with the 3rd Panzer Corps when it fought in the Battle of Kharkov. Next it spearheaded Ewald von Kleist's Caucasus campaign. After Stalingrad, von Kleist's Army Group "A" retreated and the 1st Geb/Division, was involved ina long series of withdrawels and rear-guard actions; as they reeled backwards towards Germany.

In March 1943, the division was transferred to northern Greece where it rested and re-fitted and became active in anti-partisan operatioons. Next it went to the Greco-Albanian frontier, then to western Serbia and Montenegro. In October 1944, the division was still fighting south of Belgrade. When the end came, the division was part of Army Group South fighting the Russians in central Styria; where it ended up in Soviet captivity.

Commanders of this division included:

Generalmajor Ludwig Kubler (1937-39)
Generalmajor Hubert Lanz (1942-43)
Generalmajor Kress (1943)
Generalleutnant Walter Stettner, Ritter von Grabenhofen (1943-1944)
Generalleutnant Josef Kubler (1945)

Other divisional units include:

99th and 100th (only till 1940 where it went to the 5th Geb Div) Gebjgr Rgmts.
79th Gen Arty Rgmt.
54th Cyclist Btn.
54th Panzerjager Btn.
54th Geb Pioneer Btn.
54th Geb Signals Btn.

It's home station was in Garmisch-Partenkirchen (a place I was lucky to travel through back in 2000, and is still an active Gebirgejager Base.)
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Carl,

I / Panzer Regt 6 formed the Panther Abt of the Panzer Lehr Division in Normandy , in my Militaria collection i have a silver Tankard which was presented By the famous General Fritz Bayerlein Commander of the Panzer Lehr to 3 Kompanie / Panzer Regt 6 in may 1944 as winners of the Abteilung football competition !! It's an excellent and interesting historical piece whcih i picked up for nothing in a second hand shop !!

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I / Panzer Regt 6 formed the Panther Abt of the Panzer Lehr Division in Normandy , in my Militaria collection i have a silver Tankard which was presented By the famous General Fritz Bayerlein Commander of the Panzer Lehr to 3 Kompanie / Panzer Regt 6 in may 1944 as winners of the Abteilung football competition !! It's an excellent and interesting historical piece whcih i picked up for nothing in a second hand shop !!

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Thanks for the extra info Mate. That makes these shoulderboards that much more special to me. And glad to see you scored something extremely nice at that shop.

Just wait till I have time to give a write up on all of the sets of boards im getting. I wish I had been really serious in collecting boards starting about 10 years ago. I saw a nice pair of Panzerjager Hauptmann's boards go for 375 Euro which is roughly $500++ USD.
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