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I say it was the eastern front between Russia and Germany. There is tons and of talk and movies about every other theatre except the eastern front. Burma would second in my opinion.
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welcome aboard mate
there is a section on the easten frunt in the forums great place
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Welcome! I moved the thead to the war in general section.
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Default Re: What would you say is the most under acknowledged part of WWII

I would say the Battle of the North Atlantic is mostly ignored today.

Tell me about ANY film, made after WW2 ended, that had the North Atlantic convoys as it's focus ? None that I can think of....... Are there any computer "war games " of today that feature the North Atlantic anti-submarine ships ? None that I know of .

If it had not been for the convoys, not only would the UK have been starved into surrender, but the vast majority of the US and Canadian troops would not have been able to engage in the European battles. None of them get to England on a plane, did they ? Neither did their logistics, or their fuel. Ships carried it all.

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Burma and Battles in Italy after Overlord.
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yes agree with Kai on the Italian campaign as well as the Atlantic Naval war and also the forgotten last months in the Baltic via Naval and land, maybe I should crank up a thread-multi-page on this or go through and pick up where we left off with Friedrichs excellent thread on the Baltic 45 ?

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How about the Battle for The Aleutian Islands!
I'ts been a long time since i read the book about this, can't remember tht title even! But I do recall that the Japanese set foot on American soil on the island of Attu.
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Bougainville is a good choice, as well as some of the actions Jack took part in.
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I agree with Kai. Italy and Burma are two that don't get enough recognition
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Burma and the forgotten army speaks for itself.
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I would say the Battle of the North Atlantic is mostly ignored today.
I have to agree with this. I swear, until I saw a documentary a few months ago (I think it was "The Colour of War" or something like that), I had no idea what the Atlantic Battle was, or that it even really existed.
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Italy and maybe Lapland war?
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Default Re: What would you say is the most under acknowledged part of WWII

Bigfun:

Do some reading about the debacle when the Americans invaded an island in the Aleution chain, that was completely un-occupied ( the japs had left 10 days before ) and managed to kill over 50 of their own men and wound over 200. Poorly trained and led, the troops engaged them selves in a two day battle in the fog. I'm not making this up.


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Where Jack was, Burma, Aleutians, the whole of China, Italy, Finland, and Manchuria/Korea.
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Do some reading about the debacle when the Americans invaded an island in the Aleution chain, that was completely un-occupied ( the japs had left 10 days before ) and managed to kill over 50 of their own men and wound over 200. Poorly trained and led, the troops engaged them selves in a two day battle in the fog. I'm not making this up.


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Jim,

You seem to take great delight in pointing out mistakes and rediculing the US, often with inaccurate or misleading data.

Canada also provided troops to the Kiska operation, or as you called it "an island in the Aleution [sic] chain", and island that the "jap[anese] had left 10 days before". You made the statement that all of the casualties were US. This is incorrect.

Four Canadians were killed out of a force of 5300 for a KIA rate of 0.075%. US KIAs were 17 out of a force of 34,426, for a rate of 0.049%. If you are basing competency on casualties, then by judging the rate of KIAs, was not the Canadian forces less competent, since they endured a higher rate of KIAs? Please note, this is merely a rhetorical based on your remarks in post 14 above and not something I am promoting.

Not all casualties were friendly fire incidents. Other causes of casualties were booby traps and these number around 50. Trench foot was the cause of the remaining 130 or casualties.

The US commanders, Admiral Francis Rockwell and General Albert Brown, were both relieved of their commands following this operation.

I'm not making this up.


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How about the Battle for The Aleutian Islands!
I'ts been a long time since i read the book about this, can't remember tht title even! But I do recall that the Japanese set foot on American soil on the island of Attu.
'The Thousand-Mile War', by Brian Garfield

A good read about a little known theater.

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The Allied air transport squadrons. So many more men could have died if it where not for these pilots. They made the defense of many places possible
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I would say the Battle of the North Atlantic is mostly ignored today.

Tell me about ANY film, made after WW2 ended, that had the North Atlantic convoys as it's focus ? None that I can think of....... Are there any computer "war games " of today that feature the North Atlantic anti-submarine ships ? None that I know of .

If it had not been for the convoys, not only would the UK have been starved into surrender, but the vast majority of the US and Canadian troops would not have been able to engage in the European battles. None of them get to England on a plane, did they ? Neither did their logistics, or their fuel. Ships carried it all.

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While it wasn't made AFTER WW2 ended (1943 was the release date) 'Action In The North Atlantic' starring Humphrey Bogart and Raymond Massey (two REAL big names in those days) was all about the North Atlantic convoys. Quoting from Amazon's review (linked above)
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Humphrey Bogart and Raymond Massey star in a unique film that shows what convoy duty was like for the Merchant Marine in World War II. When their tanker is torpedoed by a German U-boat, Bogart and Massey take command of a Liberty Ship, and their convoy must play cat and mouse with a German wolf pack. While clearly shown in a bad light, the Germans are not heavily demonized, which was unusual for a patriotic war film of the time (1943). Another unusual choice was having the Germans speaking only in their native language, with no subtitles. This realism helps carry any dated elements, especially when combined with the accurate depiction of convoy techniques and battle tactics (the footage was later used for actual training purposes). Even jaded viewers will be on pins and needles when the convoy is attacked, and they hear the repeated German command of "Torpedo... LOS!" --Mark Savary


A good film, and recomended for any WW2 film collection.

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