Axis

Members: 6,449
Threads: 18,399
Posts: 230,080
Online: 298

Newest Member:
jasontc

 
 
 
Go Back   World War II Forums > General Discussion > WWII General
Register FAQ Gallery Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


WWII General Open WW2 discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 04:25 AM
JCFalkenbergIII's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 6,926
Salute!: 16
Saluted 64 Times in 57 Posts
JCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of light
Default Proud Frenchman?



I wonder what he was awarded the Iron Cross to be so proud?
__________________


For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 02:54 PM
tikilal's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 838
Salute!: 1
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
tikilal Is actually quite decenttikilal Is actually quite decent
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Um I am guessing that there is a picture I am not seeing.
__________________
The Muslim Brotherhood “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands..." — Mohamed Akram. http://jihadwatch.org/
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 03:13 PM
JCFalkenbergIII's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 6,926
Salute!: 16
Saluted 64 Times in 57 Posts
JCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tikilal View Post
Um I am guessing that there is a picture I am not seeing.
Strange. I can see it fine .
__________________


For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 03:15 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Interesting, allow me some time to find out whether this is a volunteer who fought with the Axis or a propaganda picture. Could it be a LVF picture? But these guys had German uniforms. He obvioulsy earned the German E.K. Would it be possible to enlarge the orange caption? I believe I saw this picture earlier.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Iron Crosses grow
Posts: 7,849
Salute!: 93
Saluted 75 Times in 55 Posts
Za Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Look at the moustache, it's Adolf in disguise

What are the other orders, Skipper? Légion d'Honneur and?...
__________________
"On average it took five Panthers to take out a Sherman. Four would be in a ditch out of fuel or broken down, the fifth one just blows away the Sherman before breaking down."
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old June 9th, 2008, 07:53 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

There are a whole bunch of them on the recall but I believe it's the medaille militaire, not sure though it's a bit small and I believe I see palms on it too.

medaille militaire - Google Image Search
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 01:24 AM
JCFalkenbergIII's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 6,926
Salute!: 16
Saluted 64 Times in 57 Posts
JCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of lightJCFalkenbergIII is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

At least 12 ribbons it looks like. I wish I could resize the caption . I wonder if he survived the war and if so,what did he do with the Iron Cross?
__________________


For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

it's really hard to see the ribbons, but I believe there is a wounded medal, a Croix de Guerre, some colonial wars too, possibly an evader medal too.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 05:03 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Could it be Jacques Doriot, the leader of the LVF and SS legion Charlemagne?

Jacques Doriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


When France went to war with Germany in 1939, Doriot became a staunch pro-German and supported Germany's occupation of northern France in 1940. Doriot resided in collaborationist Vichy France for a time, but he eventually found that it wasn’t nearly as fascist as he had hoped it would be and moved to occupied Paris, where he espoused pro-German and anti-Communist propaganda on Radio Paris. In 1941, he and fellow Fascist collaborator Marcel Déat founded the Legion des Volontaires Francais (LVF), a French unit of the Wehrmacht.
Doriot fought with the LVF and saw active duty on the Eastern Front when Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June of 1941. When the LVF was all but destroyed, Doriot fought with the Wehrmacht, and was awarded the Iron Cross in 1943. In December of 1943, Doriot travelled to Sigmaringen, Germany, and later became a member of the exile Vichy government there. He was killed on 22 February1945 while traveling from Mainau to Sigmaringen when his car was strafed by Allied fighters. He was buried in Mengen.[2]







__________________

Last edited by Skipper; June 10th, 2008 at 05:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 05:03 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

more here: picture with all his medal , including the Iron cross

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...LD:en%26sa%3DN
__________________

Last edited by Skipper; June 10th, 2008 at 05:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Iron Crosses grow
Posts: 7,849
Salute!: 93
Saluted 75 Times in 55 Posts
Za Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

I think not. Jacques Doriot - FREE Jacques Doriot Biography | Encyclopedia.com: Facts, Pictures, Information!

__________________
"On average it took five Panthers to take out a Sherman. Four would be in a ditch out of fuel or broken down, the fifth one just blows away the Sherman before breaking down."
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Well same medals, same haircut, same ears. Imagine the guy with a moustache and without glasses...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old June 11th, 2008, 12:32 AM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Iron Crosses grow
Posts: 7,849
Salute!: 93
Saluted 75 Times in 55 Posts
Za Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Nah, different eyes, different nose, different skin, different eyebrows... not the same fellow methinks.
__________________
"On average it took five Panthers to take out a Sherman. Four would be in a ditch out of fuel or broken down, the fifth one just blows away the Sherman before breaking down."
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old June 11th, 2008, 06:57 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Check this link again with the medals. It would be a striking coincidence if there were two such guys with the same E.K + French medals. In the mean time I will see if I can find more potentials candidates, but there won't be that many guys with a similar curiculum.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipper View Post
more here: picture with all his medal , including the Iron cross

Google Image Result for http://www.odpor.org/UserFiles/Image/Charlemagne/Jacques_Doriot.jpg
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old June 11th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Iron Crosses grow
Posts: 7,849
Salute!: 93
Saluted 75 Times in 55 Posts
Za Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to allZa Rodinu is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Argh, a Czech site

Still doesn't look like the same guy, the one in the original photo has a kind of Gaullesque élégance

Besides your latest Doriot pic doesn't show a Lég.d'Hon., instead he is wearing a Star of David !!!
__________________
"On average it took five Panthers to take out a Sherman. Four would be in a ditch out of fuel or broken down, the fifth one just blows away the Sherman before breaking down."
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old June 11th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 7,110
Salute!: 74
Saluted 74 Times in 58 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Proud Frenchman?

Well let's focuss on someone else then, may on a Foreign Legion member
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Google
 

All times are GMT. The time now is 02:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Copyright © 2000 - 2007, the World War II Network, all rights reserved.Ad Management by RedTyger