Thanks for your kind acceptation of my application on WW2F
By the way, I am a Brazilian ex-para and a "tank lover"
My tank of all times choice is the PzkPfw VI Ausf A Tiger

Fernando Diniz

Panther is a much slimmer cat

Oui and you must either mean ausf E or ausf B But seriously the ausf E is also my favorite tank it's ruged big and ugly just like a tank should be the Panther tough is a better tank hands down...


Cheers...

Welcome to the forum Fernando. I'm a defensive cat myself so for a tank I would go with the Tiger I........only if I don't have any StuG III Ausf Gs around.

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American by birth, TEXAN by the grace of GOD!

I prefer the StuG IV Much nicer


Cheers...

And it wins by wheel count.

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welcome to the site. Tigers are the best man. They can unload a can of whoop @ss on any other tank.

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German Stuff is freakin sweet!!!

Somebody please pinch me and tell me I'm having a nightmare...

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I've mentioned on this forum before about the Germans ability to produce better tanks etc than us only to be shouted down,but you only have to look at the Tiger or Panther compared to the Sherman or Cromwell if the Germans could produce their tanks at the rate that the Shermans came out of the US it might of been as you Americans say ' A different ball game'

AHHHH yes the good old "IF". IF they had able to do so then the US and the Soviets would have had to produce tanks like the M26 and JS series earlier. And Germany could NEVER reach the industrial capacity of the US or the Soviets.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Now now, they were on a good track with the Panther... having a survival rate far superior in regard to the americans and russian counterparts and being cheaper per ton than a pzkw IV and only costing more 10000 Reichmarks than one in total price...





Cheers...

In response to the Mark VI, and in continutaion of there heavy earlier heavy tanks, the IS-2 with a 122mm gun was eventually fielded. In addtion a they also began fielding very heavy tank destroyers armed with high velocity 122 mm and 152 mm cannons, such on the ISU-152 and ISU-122. The SU-122 and SU-152 assault guns were also fielded. Some of these were in development before the Tiger was first known of officially however. Continually improved T-34s with better AT guns also posed more challenge, especially the T-34/85, with a 85 mm gun.

Upto11.net - Wikipedia Article for Tiger I

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

I spot an error... The 152mm was not high velocity... and the 85mm D5t could not pierce the panther Glassis plate a point blank... Even the comander of the 5th Guards tank army said so in his report to Stalin...
And since the development of the IS-2 started on the KV-13 wich was after the Tiger had started being developed I find it hard to believe that an Sp gun could be tought using the same chacis at the same time...


Cheers...

Cheers...

Big old thread on this (among dozens of others) that got way beyond "Tigerz R kule":
Tigers - were they worth it?

Cheers,
Adam.

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It's only the Internet.

LOL VP. . "freakin sweet"!!!

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Za.... you're having a nightmare....















..... and, on a more personal note..... by the feel of that pinch, you need to get back in the gym!




-whatever

-Lou

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5 out of 4 people have difficulty with fractions.

WHAT IF the Soviets were able to produce a tank with a bigger gun than the Tiger, with thicker frrontal armour, at 60% of the weight?

What? They did? Yes, they did!!! It was the JS-II

More, they made them at the ridiculously low 250 units/month, that is, at that limited rate they made as many as Tiger Is were made in 5 months or Tiger IIs were made during the entire war!

I'm sorry, but history cannot be repeated, and what-ifs tend on technical details tend to avoid the big picture, like the big error that was picking a fight with the wrong guys. Starting wars wth Poland, France, Denmark, Norway, etc, etc, etc was fine, but who in the right mind decided to pick a fight with the US and the URSS plus the entire rest of the world? Pretty stupid idea, wasn't it?

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Another if for you, if the US released the T28 earlier with twin Ford GAF V8's and had portable bridges to support them.

You have to tell the Illuminati what a T28 is, White Flight!

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The T-28 would be a let down me thinks... Too much for an underpowered veichle... Also, the drivetrain abilities of the tank would be huge!! ANd I'd like to see repairs eing done on the driving components of one of the inner tracks



Cheers...

The outer tracks were detachable as entire units, they were designed that way on purpose, not analog to the inner wheels on Tigers and Panthers.

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