britains involvement in world war II

tommy tater · #1 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 06:45 PM

As most of you should know Britain only played a minor role in WWII. iIs blitz is highly overrated as losses are only estimated at 0.1 percent of the population its military use played only secondary roles in 1939-1940 it was France,s secondary partner in 1941-1945 it was aAerican,s. In the desert was the only time Britain fought alone & fair enough it reached a kind of stalemate with the Axis on most fronts. If invaded it would have been anhillated. the Germans would have less resistance in Britain then in Denmark.

redcoat · #2 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 07:21 PM

Oh dear, if you wish to provoke a flame war you are really are going to have to do better than this.
Your rant and innane comments are so OTT they are not offensive, but funny

Now go away and play with the other little children

Slipdigit · #3 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 07:32 PM

Paul, please provide data to support your assumptions. Statements such as yours do little to further the discussions in this forum as it appears to be opinion and not backed by real world information.

mikebatzel · #4 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by panzer paul

As most of you should know Britain only played a minor role in WWII. iIs blitz is highly overrated as losses are only estimated at 0.1 percent of the population its military use played only secondary roles in 1939-1940 it was France,s secondary partner in 1941-1945 it was aAerican,s. In the desert was the only time Britain fought alone & fair enough it reached a kind of stalemate with the Axis on most fronts. If invaded it would have been anhillated. the Germans would have less resistance in Britain then in Denmark.

Do you know anything of the sacrafices those men and women made? If you want to go by you silly percentage, than the UK would be at around 1%. Not .1%. And that is of the overall population in 1939. Using the same numbers the United States is at .34%, but as you say the Uk was only an overratted minor ally. Puh. I wonder, without a very large Island that a very important Ally controlled, where the Normandy invasion is staged from? Florida? Why post a bomb like this anyways? Only Secondary roles? I wonder whos navy it was that fought the Italians in the Med up untill 42?

Hawkerace · #5 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 07:49 PM

*sigh* Please use google or Wikipedia to find that the United Kingdom, did a lot more then you think.

Slipdigit · #6 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Gentlemen,

I'm in a marginally charitable mood this afternoon. Let's wait and see what panzer paul has to say before I close and remove this thread.

Y'all hold off on posting anymore rebuttals, there is no reason to get all worked up over someone we may never see in the forum again.

Thanks

~~Kommando~~ · #7 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by panzer paul

As most of you should know Britain only played a minor role in WWII. iIs blitz is highly overrated as losses are only estimated at 0.1 percent of the population its military use played only secondary roles in 1939-1940 it was France,s secondary partner in 1941-1945 it was aAerican,s. In the desert was the only time Britain fought alone & fair enough it reached a kind of stalemate with the Axis on most fronts. If invaded it would have been anhillated. the Germans would have less resistance in Britain then in Denmark.

While it is true that Britain could not have launched an invasion of German-occupied Europe on its own, it had a stronger navy than Germany, which made a German invasion close to impossible. It was also fighting the Germans & Italians in North Africa. And you should also keep in mind that if the British isles were conquered by Germany, the U.S. would have had a tough time invading Europe, as Mike pointed out. Germany would have defeated Britain in 1940, if Britain was on the main land, thus making its navy useless. But obviously that was -and is- not the case.

Soviet Russia and the United States certainly contributed the most to the Allied victory, but Britain played a major role. To compare Britain to Denmark is plain silly. Britain fielded in total roughly 8 million men during the war, counting those from the Commonwealth aswell, while Denmark's army may not have exceeded even a 100.000.

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Originally Posted by redcoat

Oh dear, if you wish to provoke a flame war you are really are going to have to do better than this.
Your rant and innane comments are so OTT they are not offensive, but funny

Now go away and play with the other little children

Why do you so quickly assume he's attempting to provoke? It sounds to me as if his grasp on WW2 history is not perfect, so let's prove him wrong instead so he learns something.

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Originally Posted by Slipdigit

Gentlemen,

I'm in a marginally charitable mood this afternoon. Let's wait and see what panzer paul has to say before I close and remove this thread.

Y'all hold off on posting anymore rebuttals, there is no reason to get all worked up over someone we may never see in the forum again.

Thanks

I can't see why we should close this thread. And as I said to Redcoat, he's not necessarily trolling.

/Kommando

purljam · #8 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 10:06 PM

hmm...interesting post. I would also like to see proof of your comments as I hope it's not just based on opinion.

JCFalkenbergIII · #9 (**permalink**) July 9th, 2008, 10:20 PM

To save time and space while he is answering here perhaps he can produce the source(s) for this statement,

"if peace was made with the soviets which almost happened when stalin was getting impatient with the allies slow progress in italy"

macrusk · #10 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 04:27 AM

I am flabbergasted at the beginning post on this thread and have alternated between disgust at the ignorance of fact combined with rudeness towards some of the World War II Veterans on this Forum, and embarrassed laughter that someone could actually believe such jibberish.

It is the first time I have truly felt like responding to someone on the Form in a very unladylike manner! So will ensure I stay away from this area until the thread goes away.

JCFalkenbergIII · #11 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 05:29 AM

I think I can safely say that we are all waiting on baited hooks for his response and sources.

Kai-Petri · #12 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by panzer paul

As most of you should know Britain only played a minor role in WWII.

Sounds like they just watched from "their island" how everybody else was doing.

Sorry, must totally disagree!

Tomcat · #13 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 06:26 AM

Firstly, Nice graph mikebatzel.

Secondly, should we really bother with this one?

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In the desert was the only time Britain fought alone & fair enough it reached a kind of stalemate with the Axis on most fronts

But ok, what about the RAF's bombings of Germany, the RN's stopping of the Bismarck and the sinking of the tirpitz by the RAF? What about the troops during the INvasion of Normandy who took Caen against the might of the German PAnzer Divisions? The Strategic location of Britain herself?

Essentially Britain stalled the Germans long enough for more countires to join in the war such as all of Britains commenwealth dominion nations and the US. Although yes Britain was second to the Americans during the Normandy landings, they are in no way minor. Without them holding the left flank in normandy and the sword, Juno and Gold beaches, the Normandy Invasion would have been a complete failure with all the other allied units being cut of from the beaches, that sounds pretty major to me.

And that is just a start.

Sloniksp · #14 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 05:05 PM

I agree with Redcoat... no flame war needed gentlemen... This was posted for all of our amusement.

Hysterical!

Za Rodinu · #15 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM

I see, this is a comedy thread!

Slipdigit · #16 (**permalink**) July 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM

Well, it's been more that 24 hours since this doctoral thesis hit the forum and no replies to our calls for supporting statements have been forthcoming, so I will close it and leave it visible a while for comedic enjoyment.

Panzer Paul, if you would like to throw another bomb like this again, please be certain to include information backing your assumption and stay around to defend you beliefs. Otherwise, I will delete the thread. If you would like to talk to me or another moderator about this via Private Message, please feel free to do so.