Here is a website I stumbled upon, on art on totalitarian countries.

Architecture, sculpture, painting, etc. Art as a tool for the State.

Totalitarian Art, Professor Werckmeister

Sculptor Josef Thorak's atelier, designed by Albert Speer:


Marshal Voroshilov Skiing, can you believe this sicophancy?

The Führer, by Arno Brekker


Plus many more, go see it, it's worth it!

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good site, Za. There were some good posters there for the Red Rabbi.

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That is a great site ZA ! I had not heard of the Palace of Soviets before and the scale comparsions for the statue of Lenin is an eye opener.

Is the statue still there or did it get lost in the war ?

http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.e...eninHeight.jpg

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That statue was never made! Well, the palace itself was never finished as well, it was interrupted by the war and the construction was cannibalised for materials.



In any case to build this Lazar Kaganovitch (S.O.B. big time!) had ordered the demolition of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in 1931 to put in the Palace in its place. Putin ordered the the building demolished and the Cathedral rebuilt in its former location, inaugurated in 2000. Boris Yeltsin is buried there!



See? Much prettier

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Very interesting indeed, you don't see these every day.

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I have a book on Nazi art crated somewhere, very interesting. Also I inherited from my father a couple of books on Nazi architecture, presented to him by the German embassy cultural office during wartime, he was a civil engineer by training and as such he was a target for such largesse. A lot of Portuguese (and other people's too) architecture of the period shows heavy influence, and I have to admit I do appreciate the architectural style.

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Too bad they did not get to finish the building. You could have gotton an office on the top floor and be in the clouds today.

I would like to give you some rep points but the computer won't let me right now. I had never read anything about the palace before and will look for more about it. My type of office building !

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I dunno, Soviet style air conditioning tended to be lousy!

What a mixture! French 1937 International Exhibition, Genius of Fascism in the foreground, in the background from left to right: German pavillion, Soviet and Portuguese

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Soviet Socialist Realism: the statue at the top of the Soviet pavillion above.

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On the other side of the same square, Josef Thorak's Comradeship!

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Other people liked it on the grand scale


but the title of the thread is Totalitarian Art, so:

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Here is something to put the thead back on track. It' s in French but there are many pictures , including totalitarian art, but not only.

Google Image Result for http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2200/10xd6.jpg

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I don't think it lost track, but...

Searching for Hitler

Hitler the artist
His artistic drive
his watercoulours

http://www.schikelgruber.net/naziart2.html]Nazi art[/url]
Soviet art

Franz Liebkind in The Producers: "Hitler, there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats! "

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Let's call it a diversion on my behalf then, I was actually trying to save your live before our American friends decided to lynch you for having put their national symbol of Democracy in the totalitarian art list.

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That was the aesthetics of the times... Whatcha mean saving my life? I wasn't saying anything about 2nd Amendment Anyway I covered my butt with that Norman Rockwell's Freedom of Speech

And there was/is Socialist Realism.

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a Vichy Poster.

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Could be worse...

Nazi or anti-nazi kitsch?


Speaking of kitsch, a Horst Wessel Lied musicbox!

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Oh my God, I thought that the ugliest kitch design was made in the 70s, but that pre war music box beats it all. Don't forget to goose step when you play it. I kind of like the symbolism of Mannaken Piss having a pee on the swastika..... Good show Za.

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What amazes me about the Tolitarian building plans - is their grandiose nature - when their people starve and do without basic necessities. Absolutely narcistic.

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Oliver Goldsmith, "I love everything that's old: old friends, old times, old manners, old books, old wines."

The construction projects might be argued to make economic sense as make-work projects and infrastructure building, like the Autobahnen for instance (or the Hoover Dam elsewhere). But this would require a longer discussion for which I'm not prepared...

On another tack look at this Dux (Mussolini), 1930.


and


(Fede in Mussolini = Faith in Mussolini!)
These abstract and truly modernist representations would mean an immediate Konzentratzionlager in Germany for the authors, while they would be the way forward in Italy. Quite a different character in art.

Soviet art was also quite liberal, investigative, free to explore approaches. That is, before Stalinism's Socialist Realism clamped down on it.

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That is so wrong!

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Eh? What wrong?

What is that pic, Komsomol doing civil defence training?

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No, the pic you've posted befor that(post#10):" two dudes naked, holding each others hands".

Call me homofob or whatever, but if i'm completly naked, the only people i leting touch me is thouse with tits and vagainas!

EDIT.
Don't know much about picture i posted above. Just some random pic i found on the net. Thought it was totalitarian enough to pass in to the topic.

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Well, Troglodyte is an appropriate name then

What do you know about Heroic art? There are absolutely no homosexual connections to that picture. Have you been in the army? There you'd have more than your fill of male nudity in the shower rooms, and again no homosexuality involved at all!

And believe me, homosexuality in Nazi Germany mean an immediate ticket to the Extermination camp, so no fear there too!

As for your pic, look at here, they do look sinister, don't they?: Airminded · Seventy-two gas masks Since when was Britain Totalitarian?

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I'm pretty much aware that there were no sexual context involved when this statue was made.
There was a common practice for young men in ancient Greece to have sexual relations among each other. Nor was it wrong to have a statue of two naked males holding each others hands in Germany during 1930's.
However, time change things. If two males would hold hands like that (even with close on) would be no doubt wich sexual orientation they belong too. I'm not actualy saying:"It's wrong!", i'm saying: "It's gay!".

Have you seen many guys holding hands in army showers?
Makes me wonder what army you were in?

I'm aware of that too!


Yes that. Your picture is something typical that comes to mind when i think about cold war. That we seen for 40 years or so on both sides of the wall.
School. Kids taking gas masks on, going down into bombshelter while some of the teachers taking time. Rutine.

Anothe picture is looks surreal to me. Something is off. I don't know, maybe it's just me. Looks like it could be from Fallout game series.

EDIT I just read the text with in you link. It is actually pictures from 1930s. Interesting...
Sorry for pulling this thread offtopik.

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