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July 19th, 2008, 07:44 AM
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Totalitarian Art
Here is a website I stumbled upon, on art on totalitarian countries.
Architecture, sculpture, painting, etc. Art as a tool for the State.
Totalitarian Art, Professor Werckmeister
Sculptor Josef Thorak's atelier, designed by Albert Speer:
Marshal Voroshilov Skiing, can you believe this sicophancy?
The Führer, by Arno Brekker
Also running  :
Plus many more, go see it, it's worth it!
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July 19th, 2008, 02:47 PM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
good site, Za. There were some good posters there for the Red Rabbi.
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July 19th, 2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
That is a great site ZA ! I had not heard of the Palace of Soviets before and the scale comparsions for the statue of Lenin is an eye opener.
Is the statue still there or did it get lost in the war ?
http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.e...eninHeight.jpg
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July 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM
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That statue was never made! Well, the palace itself was never finished as well, it was interrupted by the war and the construction was cannibalised for materials.
In any case to build this Lazar Kaganovitch (S.O.B. big time!) had ordered the demolition of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in 1931 to put in the Palace in its place. Putin ordered the the building demolished and the Cathedral rebuilt in its former location, inaugurated in 2000. Boris Yeltsin is buried there!
See? Much prettier 
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July 19th, 2008, 10:25 PM
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Very interesting indeed, you don't see these every day.
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July 19th, 2008, 11:38 PM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
I have a book on Nazi art crated somewhere, very interesting. Also I inherited from my father a couple of books on Nazi architecture, presented to him by the German embassy cultural office during wartime, he was a civil engineer by training and as such he was a target for such largesse. A lot of Portuguese (and other people's too) architecture of the period shows heavy influence, and I have to admit I do appreciate the architectural style.

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July 20th, 2008, 04:24 AM
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Too bad they did not get to finish the building. You could have gotton an office on the top floor and be in the clouds today.
I would like to give you some rep points but the computer won't let me right now. I had never read anything about the palace before and will look for more about it. My type of office building !
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July 20th, 2008, 07:36 AM
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I dunno, Soviet style air conditioning tended to be lousy!
What a mixture! French 1937 International Exhibition, Genius of Fascism in the foreground, in the background from left to right: German pavillion, Soviet and Portuguese

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Soviet Socialist Realism: the statue at the top of the Soviet pavillion above.

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July 20th, 2008, 07:39 AM
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On the other side of the same square, Josef Thorak's Comradeship!

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July 20th, 2008, 08:00 AM
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Other people liked it on the grand scale
but the title of the thread is Totalitarian Art, so:

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July 20th, 2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
Here is something to put the thead back on track. It' s in French but there are many pictures , including totalitarian art, but not only.
Google Image Result for http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2200/10xd6.jpg
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July 20th, 2008, 11:41 AM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
I don't think it lost track, but...
Searching for Hitler
Hitler the artist
His artistic drive
his watercoulours
http://www.schikelgruber.net/naziart2.html]Nazi art[/url]
Soviet art
Franz Liebkind in The Producers: "Hitler, there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats! " 
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Let's call it a diversion on my behalf then, I was actually trying to save your live before our American friends decided to lynch you for having put their national symbol of Democracy in the totalitarian art list. 
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That was the aesthetics of the times... Whatcha mean saving my life? I wasn't saying anything about 2nd Amendment  Anyway I covered my butt with that Norman Rockwell's Freedom of Speech
And there was/is Socialist Realism.

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July 20th, 2008, 01:37 PM
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Re: Totalitarian Art
a Vichy Poster.

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July 21st, 2008, 07:49 AM
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Could be worse...
Nazi or anti-nazi kitsch?
Speaking of kitsch, a Horst Wessel Lied musicbox!

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July 21st, 2008, 08:28 AM
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Oh my God, I thought that the ugliest kitch design was made in the 70s, but that pre war music box beats it all. Don't forget to goose step when you play it. I kind of like the symbolism of Mannaken Piss having a pee on the swastika..... Good show Za.
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