Here is an interesting link to an article in Military History magazine about the early push in the USA to train soldiers as Germany overran Europe. Good reading!

Louisiana Maneuvers (1940-41) » HistoryNet

Thanks for the tip !!!

Writting a book about my uncle. He was an original T-Patcher with the 36th ID in 1940 and KIA on 12/12/1944 in France. He participated in The Maneuvers after the federalization of the Texas National Guard.

Not alot of info on these crucial manuevers. It set the stage for many Generals and developed our Infantry tactics.

We will never see anything like this again.

Best Regards,

Steve

If you are ever in central Louisiana, stop by Camp Beauregard and see the Louisiana Maneuvers Museum. It is set up in a reconstructed WW2 era wooden 2 story barracks. Camp Beauregard is near Pineville, which is on the east side of the Red River from Alexandria.

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I posted some photos of the Louisana Maneuvers Museum on my website. If you are interested, take a look.

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"The U.S. Army GHQ Maneuvers of 1941" by Christopher Gabel is also another great historical account of the maneuvers. If interested, I may be able to pick up some free copies here at Ft. Leavenworth.

Best,
Shawn

Thanks, Shawn, for showing us THEIR website. It was interesting to look at.

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97th FA,Battery A



4th Cavalry Brigade,Blue Army



The umpires had to be mounted to keep up with us (notes frome the scrap book)



Benny with the Guidon

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What the hell is this, the German High Tech thread?

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LOL. Its pretty amazing how the US went from that to being a fully mechanized force in such a short time. Unlike the Germans where they became less so as the war went on.

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My step dad was a T patcher and was wounded about the same time as your father.

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Are these more to your liking Za? LOL



67th Infantry (Provisional Tank Brigade), at Third Army maneuvers, 1940


Tanks of the 68th Armored, 2d Division, participate in the Louisiana Maneuvers, 1941

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Great photos, Robert, thanks very much

You do have "the knack"!

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AWWWW Thanks Za . Here is another with the mixture of the two.



Among may other units, the 2nd Cavalry Regiment participated with the Second Armored Division in the maneuvers in Louisiana, September 1941. In this photo, horses with the 2nd Cavalry are going into the woods with a new armored M3 Scout Car in the foreground.

WW II SECOND ARMY MANEUVERS IN LOUISIANA, 1941

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US cavalry at the time (1940) was still partially mounted. Cavalry reconnissance squadrons were semi-mechanized. Part rode on M3 scout cars the other part used horses. More weird still, the horsed portion had trucks and trailers provided to move their horses in non-tactical moves as they could not otherwise keep up with the mechanized portion of the unit.
In addition, there was still a cavalry division in existance and a second forming. Both were fully mounted. Neither ended up seeing combat mounted. The First went to the Pacific as dismounted infantry and the Second was broken up for replacements in North Africa.

I'm going to show my ignorance now....But I seem to remember Chruchil and Allenbrooke being invited to watch a major US forces exercise at this time. Any one know if this was indeed the same thing?

Battlefield of Louisiana

The Louisiana Maneuvers (August - September 1941) were the prelude to the greatest war the world has ever seen, World War II, and led to the birth of Camp Polk. The maneuvers were called the "Big One" because it involved upwards of a half million men engaged in simulated combat. It included 19 Divisions and was the largest such military exercise ever held on the US Continent.
This maneuver was not without casualties with 26 men documented as losing their lives in our area. First recorded casualty was a soldier struck and killed by lightening. Sabine River was the scene of several drownings. There were casualties from motorcycle wrecks and vehicle accidents. Records reveal that one soldier succumbed to a heart attack at age 24. All in all, a very small percentage of men lost their lives when one considers the magnitude of the military exercise.
After Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, the act that started WWII, some of America's leaders recognized the possibility of American involvement in a general war. Military expansion was under way and the Army began looking for suitable places to hold large military exercises. The Army was impressed with the hundreds of square miles of relatively unpopulated countryside in Louisiana.
Assigned the task of finding a suitable training area for the gigantic maneuvers, General Leslie McNair and Colonel Mark Clark actually took a Louisiana road map to lay out the assembly and maneuver area. It encompassed over 3400 square miles and extended from the Sabine River, east to the Calcasieu River and north to the Red River.
The maneuvers were a trial run for war battles between two armies and were judged by such top Army officers as Major Gen. George Patton, Gen. Krueger, along with Col. Dwight Eisenhower and viewed by the US Army's top General and Chief of Staff, Gen. Omar Bradley. Gen. George Marshall said before the end of the exercise: "I want the mistakes made down in Louisiana, not over in Europe. If it doesn't work, find out what we need to make it work."
Louisiana was the proving ground for the coming age of mechanism, tanks against the horse cavalry. It also tested how the horse cavalry could cope on this "Modern" battlefield. Each morning, sick call was held for the horses as well as for
the men.

The Cavalry "moving on" after coping on the modern battlefield of the
Louisiana "Big One"

As tanks and infantry of the 2nd and 3rd Armies moved toward the front lines of the training exercise, the Army used its new parachute troops for the first time (September 17, 1941). Paratroops, 127 men and equipment ejected from 13 fighter-protected transport planes and landed in a Louisiana cotton patch to train in executing destructive missions like those to be carried out in Europe. The surprise attack took only 17 minutes.
A week before the maneuvers a hurricane struck Louisiana. Rains had flooded the area and rivers were swollen with water. Army trucks became stuck in the mud and roads became practically impassable because of the mud. Patton's observation of the maneuver resulted in his statement: "If you could take these tanks through Louisiana, you could take them through hell."
One humorous story is told about Patton. A frustrated M.P. was directing traffic at an intersection in a town north of DeRidder. The M.P. was unable to unsnarl the jam until Gen. Patton appeared and started cussing and raising hell. The traffic jam then began unwinding at this same intersection where mass was being observed in a Catholic Church. Gen. Patton, with all his cussing and loud outburst was about to completely disrupt the church service. The priest finally decided something had to be done. He came from the church and told Gen. Patton to hush up the obnoxious outbursts while his church was in session. Patton apologized for his actions, turned the traffic control back over to the M.P. saluted the priest and headed south with the advancing 2nd Armored Division.
During one of the mock invasions in a move that was strictly "Patton" the General bought up all the gasoline along Hwy 171 southward from Many. When Gen. Kreuger brought his Red Army across the Sabine River to invade the Blue Army territory there was no gasoline left and the maneuvers came to a halt. It is not known if the story is true or not, but it is interesting.

George Patton (r) colorful General, during

the Louisiana Maneuvers

Many of the locals were happy to have the military guests in our area. Bivouac areas were prepared in front yards and gardens of the locals. Some men sneaked fresh water to the soldiers who only had rations to eat. Housewives baked bread along with tea cakes that were sold to the soldiers. Others did laundry and pressed clothes for the men. It was amusing to the locals that some of the soldiers actually did not know that milk was milked from cows before it was bottled.
Western Louisiana's economy flourished when more than $11 million was issued to the troops during the Labor Day weekend. It was no longer a rural Southern community with open range sheep farming, sugar cane fields, some cotton, a cotton gin, and heavily dependent upon the lumber industry along with some illicit production of moonshine in the backwoods.
After the "Big One," other Louisiana maneuvers were held through 1944.
A fascinating fact is that a maneuver of 1943 brought Major Gen. Stonewall Jackson through our area. He was a warrior of WW I who happened to be the namesake of the Gen. Stonewall Jackson who had been accidentally wounded by his own men in Chancellorsville, Virginia, during the Civil War. While observing maneuvers, the Major General was injured in a plane wreck in the Florien area. He succumbed at Camp Polk to injuries from the crash and received a hero's burial in Washington D. C.

http://www.beau.org/~velmer/local/ww2.html

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The pics are amazing, not for pics sake, but just because of the timescale between here and their arrival in Ireland. The change of kit etc in such a short time for so massive an amount of manpower.

Contents Figure II-6. First Army Soldiers With a Pine-Log "Heavy Machine Gun," Carolina Maneuvers, 1941

Figure II-9. Medium Tanks of 1st Armored Division Roll Past a Destroyed 75mm Gun, Louisiana Maneuvers, 1941

For a very interesting read on the US Army Preparing for war here is a good publication,
"THE SECRET OF FUTURE VICTORIES "by Paul F. Gorman, General, U.S. Army, Retired

Combined Arms Research Library

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Hahahahaha! Great one Robert!

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Column of armored scout cars advancing through Sabine Parish during the 1941 Louisiana Maneuvers. Photo Credit: Rickey Robertson Col

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Now there is something you'd never see today: US troops practicing their trade in a town firing a machinegun next to somebody's house. The only thing that would have made the picture better would have been a couple of civilians standing there watching them!

Here is some more that you don't see alot of.



SC128589 - Second Army Maneuvers in Arkansas…Loading platform at Thebes, Arkansas. Light machine gun set up for action. Gunner Pfc. Urel Ellis, Ozan, Arkansas, No. 1; Pvt. Elliot Brown, Leavenworth, Kansas, No. 2; Pvt. Warren Anderson, Stephens, Arkansas. All three men are from Troop C, 10th Cavalry. Aug. 27, 1941.


SC128630 - Second Army Maneuvers in Louisiana…Sgt. Andrew Favors, Hqs. Troop, 9th Cavalry, with 45 Sub. Thompson machine gun. Aug. 30, 1941.


SC128688 - Second Army Maneuvers in Louisiana…Pvt. Chester Arthur Burnett, Picket line Troop G, 9th Cavalry (colored) from Aberdine, Mississippi, cleaning frog of horse, while Staff Sgt. Columbus Rudisal, Goffney, S.C., looks on. Sgt. Rudisal is directing Troop G, 9th Cavalry, 4th Brigade. Sept. 12, 1941.

http://www.history.army.mil/photos/W.../maneuvers.htm

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Soldiers manning a 75mm. anti tank gun in during the Louisiana maneuvers.

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