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March 23rd, 2001, 01:45 AM
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How did the allied forces fail to kill one man, Hitler? How did they try to get him?
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March 23rd, 2001, 01:57 AM
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They didnt, at least the US Govt didnt want to be invloved in an assination, I dont know how herr Winston felt about that.
There was a real SOE group of about a Company's strength, that wore German uniforms and were trained as German soldiers. These were the ones who were supposed to actually carryout an attempt on Hitlers life but, it never came to be. 
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March 23rd, 2001, 05:38 AM
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There was a planed operation to kill Adolf, called "Foxworthy" it was suposed to get a sniper close enough to get one clean shot. It was a british plan but was never executed, I'm not sure why it wasn't but it's likely that no sniper would take such a suicide mission!
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March 23rd, 2001, 09:12 PM
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Do you think it was that hard to get a good shot at Hitler? And the reverse side to that would be a lot of snipers who might want to do it because they could say they killed Hitler and could have potentially stopped the war.
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March 23rd, 2001, 09:16 PM
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Easy to get a shot at Hitler?
All you are asking is to get an assasin to infiltrate the most oppresive police state in all of history, find where their extremely paranoid leader is hiding, and kill him. Oh yeah, easy. 
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March 23rd, 2001, 09:21 PM
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No question about it, I realize getting a shot at Hitler was near impossible, I do agree with that. What I was getting at was that why the British Plan to "get him" never fell through. I'm sure there were many snipers who didn't want the job in fear of death, but I also was just a little curious if there was some one, just one person who wanted to be the one who killed Hitler, the man who caused one of the largest genocides in our world' history
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March 26th, 2001, 09:42 PM
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Otto....What happened with that plan to assasinate Hitler anyway? Did they try at all and fail?
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March 30th, 2001, 01:01 AM
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I think they tried to kill Hitler numerous times but failed each and ever time.
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March 30th, 2001, 01:43 AM
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For JoCon:
Which countries were involved in the plans to get Hitler?
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March 30th, 2001, 01:46 AM
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In fact, I would really like to know what the plans were called if anyone knows. I understand one was stated earlier by Otto but was that the only one?
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March 30th, 2001, 09:06 PM
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As the war dragged on, as an Allied power I'd WANT to keep Hitler alive and making the command decisions! Come on, this is the same guy who insisted that the ME-262 be used as a bomber. Rommel cussed under his breath over all kinds of things like that.
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March 31st, 2001, 10:14 PM
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There WAS a planned operation called: Iron Cross. This was one I think that was being planned by the O.S.S. and it was a plan to kidnap Hitler. As you know--it didnt happen.
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March 31st, 2001, 10:35 PM
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For Erich:
Dont you think that if Hitler was assasinated, some other general would have stepped in? I don't think anyone could ever match Hitler, he was a great general and a decorated war hero. If he had been killed, the morale of the Germans would have been crushed.
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April 4th, 2001, 06:38 PM
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Just a thought...
There were several, (at least 10), assasination attempts against Hitler during the war, and these were from his own people. If his own people couldn't get him, why would an outside force be more succesful?
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April 5th, 2001, 12:33 AM
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Most of the attempts made by Germans themselves appear to have been plagued by slipshod hardware and/or wishy-washy resolve.
The attempt which came closest - aside from von Staufenberg's redecoration of the Wolf's Lair in "44, by which time it was almost certainly too late to matter - was in 1938, when a bomb planted in the location Hitler gave a speech missed our favorite Crazy Austrian Housepainter by 15 minutes, as he cut the blab-a-thon short to travel to Berlin.
I think the problem with Allied attempts was the belief that it would be harder to get to AH than it actually would.
Interviews with key notables claim that AH liked to wander the grounds of the Berghof at a moments notice, leaving SS guards scrambling to locate 'im, and that his Berlin apartment was guarded by merely a single man.
The real problem would more likely have been getting the team to the location in a Germany where travel papers and the like were necessary...
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April 5th, 2001, 03:12 AM
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I saw a documentary on HC that addressed just this, the allies' attempt on AH's life. I think it was called operation Foxley. Yes, they assumed it would be more difficult than it was. After the war, they discovered that there were many opportunities to assasinate him.
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April 5th, 2001, 04:05 AM
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That's right! It was called Foxley, I thought it was called Foxworthy, thanks for the correction PzJgr, at least I got the animal right! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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