Axis

Members: 6,492
Threads: 18,463
Posts: 230,973
Online: 440

Newest Member:
billyb

 
 
 
Go Back   World War II Forums > General Discussion > WWII General
Register FAQ Gallery Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


WWII General Open WW2 discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old June 17th, 2001, 10:17 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 14
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
Panzerjager is an unknown quantity at this point
Hello,
Is it true that Luth and his U-181 were at sea for one patrol of 7 staright months in which he sank 38-47 ships (Source sketchy)????
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old June 17th, 2001, 10:35 PM
C.Evans's Avatar
Expert
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
C.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really nice
Dear Ryan--its true. I wish my book "Shooting The War" was not in storage, or I could quote you some great stuff about that patrol, as told by the U 181 2nd watch officer Otto Giese. By the way, Otto Giese is living in Florida, but is very ill.

I have a few U 181 vet/friends who did serve with Luth, and on that patrol. I will be writing to them to ask more details of that patrol and their service with Luth. One of these men of u 181 that I am friends with, served with Luth when he was in command of the 2nd Marine Battalion; near the wars end.

I tell you what, those men loved both of U 181s Kapitans (Luth and Kurt Freiwald) as they were great leaders and good friends with the crew. I will check tonight in another book I have that mentions U 181, and see what it says about that patrol and will let you know. [img]smile.gif[/img]
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old June 17th, 2001, 10:48 PM
C.Evans's Avatar
Expert
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
C.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really nice
Here is something worth bragging about and I shall. I actually handled Luths spare Oak Leaves and Swords, while in Germany. Only a few people know where his awards are kept (I only because I am a member of a certain "organization" and because I am an honorary member of U 181)

Believe me, they are kept under lock and key, and in an area that noone would bother looking in, if they were so inclined as to wanting to look for them to steal them.

There HAS been several attempts of someone stealing those awards along with other items like: Grossadmiral Doenitzs complete uniform, and some of Erich Topps items-among others.

I took a few photos of Luths awards, but, I dont know if I will ever submit them to be shown, its something I will have to think about for a long time. The reason being is, that if these photos wer shown, it would also give away the location of where the awards were being kept. Someone would know because of some of the items that were also in the photos, and to my knowledge, these items are one of a kind, and most of them are kept in the same building.

It is estimated that, if someone had been able to steal these particular awards, that ob the black market, they could fetch appx $100,000+++ just because they are known to bt Wolfgang Luths items. That is amazing for these two awards, because a standard set of Leaves and swords would cost you around $7,000 for both.

Only the lord knows where Erich Topps items are, and which pig, stole them to begin with.
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old June 29th, 2001, 01:39 AM
C.Evans's Avatar
Expert
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
C.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really niceC.Evans is just really nice
Ryan, sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this but, here goes it.

----------<Wolfgang Luth>----------

Born on Oct 15, 1913 in Riga.
Class of 1933, last rank was Kapitan zur See.
Captain of U 9, U 138, U 43, and U 181.
Knights Cross on Oct 24, 1940; Oak Leaves (142nd recipient) on Nov 13, 1942; Swords (29th recipient) on April 15, 1943; Diamonds (7th recipient) on August 9th, 1943.

Sunk: 47 ships totalling 221,981 tons, including the submarine: Doris.

Last service position: Commander of the Flensburg-Murwik Naval Academy. Accidentally shot and killed by a sentry on May 14th, 1945. and

Wolfgang Luth, a Baltic german, served on four u-boats. He joined the submarine service immediately after his promotion to Oberleutnant zur See. He sailed on U 38 under Liebe as a trainee commander. In December 1939 he took over U 9, the vessel symbolic of the u-boat arm. While commanding the U 9 Luth sank the French submarine: Doris.

As Capitan of U 138 and U 43, Luth achieved significant success against large steamers and tankers, including the 13, 801 ton New Sevilla. He sank eleven ships in the course of three patrols and 192 days at sea on u 43. On May 9th 1943 Luth comissioned U 181 (My guys)the first Type IX-D2 u-boat. He took the new vessel out of port on its first patrol on September 12 and returned after 129 days at sea with twelve sinkings.

Luth's last patrol saw the U 181 at sea for 206 days, patrolling the waters between Capetown and Madagascar. Ten ships were sunk, including the 10, 528 ton Clan McArthur.

Luth was sent to the Naval Academy in Flendburg-Murwik by Donitz, becoming the academy's last commander. There he was mistakenly shot by a sentry on May 14th 1945. Luth was given a state funreal on May 16th, 1945. the only submarine captain so honored.

Additional stuff for you:::::

Kapitanleutnant Karl-August Landfehrmann, served as Leading Engineer on U 181 under Wolfgang Luth.

Heres more:::::::::::::::::::

Johann Limbach, was Watch Officer on U 181, and was on board serving with both Kapitans: Wolfgang Luth and Kurt Freiwald. Landfehrmann , Limbach and Luth were all Knights Cross Recipients. This is also very unusual that three were on the same u-boat at the same time. I do not know of any other such u-boats to have this distinction. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I can sure pick the right submarine to become an honorary member of--eh?

[ 28 June 2001: Message edited by: C.Evans ]
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Google
 

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Copyright © 2000 - 2007, the World War II Network, all rights reserved.Ad Management by RedTyger

Allies