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September 3rd, 2001, 01:32 AM
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Who was the top panzer ace for a jagpanther?
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November 7th, 2003, 03:26 PM
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any of our newer posters know anything about this ? Whom it may have been........most probably from the Heer I suppose
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November 7th, 2003, 05:18 PM
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I could be wrong, but i think it was SS-Oberscharfuehrer Roy, of the 12th SS Panzer Div.
He knocked out about 36 tanks before being shot by an American sniper in the Ardennes.
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November 7th, 2003, 06:52 PM
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That is pretty sad, the (possible) tank ace of the axis forces is killed by a sniper, rather than by another tank.
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November 7th, 2003, 07:02 PM
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actually he ws part of a Jagdpanzer IV crew not a Jagdpanther. The only W-SS formations I am aware of are were on the Ost front and that being 5th SS Wiking and possibly 10th SS Frundsburg in 1945 operating the Jagdpanther and I think it was Heer crews in Wiking as the Jagdpanthers were not an integral part of that W-SS Panzer Division...
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November 7th, 2003, 07:03 PM
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Sorry for being off topic..but how do you get avatars?
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November 7th, 2003, 07:46 PM
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PM'd you mate
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November 7th, 2003, 07:48 PM
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you have to have a minumum of 100 posts. Please go to the front page at :
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November 7th, 2003, 07:54 PM
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Yes Erich, you are right. I'm not sure about the highest scoring Jagpanther ace, i will do a little research and see what comes up.
Still, 36 kills is pretty impressive !
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November 8th, 2003, 07:43 AM
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I'd like to hear more about the exploits and fate of Oberscharfuhrer Roy ( of whom I'd never heard before ). Can anyone fill me in.....? 
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November 8th, 2003, 02:48 PM
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It was more likely someone like Albert Ernst (aka "The Tiger of Vitbsk") who served in first, Nashorns and then went to Jgpz VI Jadgtigers. He had 54 kills by late 43. He formally surrendered his command (KG Ernst / 1/512 S. Pzjr Abt) at Iserlohn in the Ruhr pocket in 45 and survived the war.
I would also agree with Erich that it was almost certainly someone in the Heer as all of the heavier Jadgpanzer were Heer troops.
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November 8th, 2003, 03:33 PM
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Martin, Roy is famous for the hunt or defence of the Normandie brush against a Polish armored speer along with 2 other Pz Jagd IV's or at least the small kompanie-battalion. I do believe short barrel 75mm as the long barrel came into service in the Ardenne. Will hunt down more unless someone beats me first.
T.A. thanks for the add-on about the Jagdpz commander......
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November 8th, 2003, 03:45 PM
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Rudolf Roy born in August of 1920 in Berlin, killed in 1945 in the westfront
RK [img]graemlins/rk.gif[/img] on Octber 16, 1944 as Panzer kommandeur in 1./SS-Pz Rgt. 12.........whoa wait stop the press........he was kommanduer of a Panther G. This does not sound like the guy I was talking about.......ok back to the drawing board....
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November 8th, 2003, 03:52 PM
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alright I take that back. My one reference was incorrect.......
he was a Pz. Jgd kommanduer in 1./Pz. Jg. Abt. 12 and was killed on 17 December 1944.......
more later
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