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June 25th, 2002, 01:19 PM
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MOHs are awarded fro actual armed conflict. So how then are they awarded in peace time-to the best of my knowledge-without having been lawfully won in a previous conflict???
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June 25th, 2002, 08:13 PM
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 only because slick willy clinton wanted to do his politically correct thing. Now im sure those men deserved the CMoH, and were probably not awarded it for one reason or another, but, there were thousands of other G.I.s who also deserved that medal. These "new" MoHs are not recognized as ww2 CMoH--even though they are ww2 vets who now have them.
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June 25th, 2002, 10:08 PM
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Actually, Clinton is held in much higher respect here in Europe than Bush is.
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June 26th, 2002, 03:51 AM
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Well i guess it's better that a few finally get the recognition they deserve. rather than none of them.
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June 26th, 2002, 09:09 AM
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Im sure these men did deserve it-it just sturuck me as strange that they were awarded them in peacetime-these awards are not just restricted to Clinton's reign however gents!!!
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June 27th, 2002, 01:34 AM
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Andreas, I am sorry clinton is held in better standing with Europeans--I hope though not by many Germans ot Dutch or English. About 2 weeks ago, I recieved a letter from an RKT/vet friend of mine Herrn Remy Schrijnen. In it he talks about Bush's visit there and his visit in Russia. I gather (at least from who he has talked to) that Bush's visit was popular with him and the others. At least I know that several RKTs like Bush better than slick lying cheating willy clinton.
clinton so cheapened the office of the presidentcy with all his scandels and other mis-begotton things. I NEVER have seen such a S*** of S*** who was the leader of a nation--except for uncle Joe stalin, that is, who was such a dishonorable leader--so sneaking and lying and decietful. clinton flat out is a traitor, Bush is not. Bush at least served in a form of the military--slick willy ran off to Moscow (of all places) and was in a huge demonstration on the Vietnam War--with the russians. SOME loyal American he is?
I THANK GOD, that Bush is now in office and not gore.
[ 26 June 2002, 07:36 PM: Message edited by: C.Evans ]
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June 27th, 2002, 03:17 PM
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Sorry this is off the topic, but I have to agree. No matter what kind of President you think he was, he never should have even been allowed to become president becasue of all of the crimes and lies BEFORE he was even in office. I won't even start on what all he did once he was in. Urrrrgggg!
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June 27th, 2002, 04:53 PM
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Hallo, gentlemen!
I will be sincere. I did not like Clinton, nor less I like Bush. Actually, the only American president I like is... Ike? No. I think is Thomas Jefferson, but that is definately out of epoque...
I can tell you, living in a strange country, very near from you and your influence that Mr. George Bush II is not quite popular around here. Nobody likes Mr. Fox to be so close to Bush. They are just silly cowboys. How couldn't they be friends?
I actually met president Fox and Kanzler Schršder some months ago. It was not quite good... Very disappointing...
But going to the real topic: What is worth to award Medals of Honours in peace time? I do not thing it is appropiate. It is like breaking a tradition. What would you say if Kanzler Schršder awrds tomorrow two pilots who crashed their helicopters with a "Por le MŽrite"? Wouldn't it be totally inaddecuate?
Beside, if they award Medal of Honours. The holders cannot hold them at airports or they could be arrested... 
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December 29th, 2002, 01:33 AM
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Peace time medal of Honor awardees??? Should that be none conflict awardees rather than peace time? Otherwise the guy in my sig file falls into the catagory of peacetime as he was not at war...
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December 29th, 2002, 11:31 AM
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Firstly-Capt. McGonagle served in Vietnam which was classified as a wartime MOH receipt.
For all answers go to www.homeofheroes.com-then follow links to peacetime recipients...
I'm still baffled...
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He received his medal of honour for action against USS Liberty in the Med in 1967 not Vietnam. Baffling is infectious now mate...
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The USS Liberty is something I am very involved with but not for this forum, am in touch with Jim Ennes from that gallant ship, but again not for this forum so will keep it off this board, but the sig file stands in honour of a brave man and a brave crew. In whatever circumstances... they hold the mantle passed down by many a brave sailor.
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