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February 23rd, 2003, 09:54 AM
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The famous photo of Bradley, Ike and Patton at Bastogne was taken in January 1945 outside No 97 Rue du Sablon ; you can stand on the exact spot today ( no rubble, though !  )
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February 23rd, 2003, 05:38 PM
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Kai, those are really nice pictures of the Führer! And the sites are  Keep going!
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February 24th, 2003, 03:41 AM
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Here's a site that has a whole boat load of pics. Just pick a topic from the 'Select Slideshow' list.
http://www.worldwar2database.com/cgi...lideviewer.cgi
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February 26th, 2003, 08:45 PM
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http://www.455th.ukpc.net/tomfeise/455th/wartime.htm
Germany winter 1944-45
Christmas 1944
Churchill etc at Siegfied line
January 1945
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February 26th, 2003, 08:48 PM
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More great shots Kai--and I especially like the G.I. lying on the ground with his Garand.
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PS--I also like the shot of the column of G.I.s in January 1945.
Heh heh heh, I have my own little "formation" of G.I.s at the Battle of the Bulge. I think I have three but at least two different G.I.Joes wearing snowsuits.
Wish I had a pic to show ya
Oh and congrats on your new award--when you get it in the next several postings-if im not mistaken
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February 26th, 2003, 09:03 PM
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Thanx Carl!
But maybe tomorrow...time to go to sleep and dream Waffen-SS dreams...not!

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Kai--speaking of Waffen SS--did you see my posting to the effect in the Free Fire Zone? [img]smile.gif[/img] Let me know your thoughts when you see that posting 
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February 27th, 2003, 01:05 PM
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February 27th, 2003, 09:53 PM
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Great site Kai--and that foto taken of the gunners view behind that Machinegun--is WOW. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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February 27th, 2003, 11:33 PM
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Great pictures and sites, Kai and others! Thanks!
Kai, wasn't 'Ghost division' Rommel's 7th? 
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February 28th, 2003, 09:27 AM
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Actually yes, Friedrich. I had a hunch that it should have been the 7th but I thought I remebered wrong. Thanx for noticing. And here´s the story why:
During the French campaign the 7th Panzer Division earned the title "Ghost Division" as no one knew were it was, including the German High Command." ( Rommel )
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The 11.Panzerdivision was formed on August 1, 1940 from the 11.Schützen-Brigade (which had fought in the French campaign) and from Panzer-Regiment 15. The Division first saw action in the Balkan campaign and in April 1941 was credited with the capture of Belgrade, the Yugoslav capital.
http://www.molossia.org/wwII/11panzerhist.htm
This title ( Gespensterdivision ) can give rise to confusion with the 11th Panzer Division which is also known as the Ghost Division. The 11th Panzer's title was taken from the division's insignia, a picture of which can be seen on the unit listing page of this newsletter.
http://www.nwha.org/news_2Q2001/news_page7.html
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 Indeed, for the division number it couldn't have participated in the invasion of France because it didn't exist! But then who captured Belgrade? Motorised regiment 'Das Reich' beat motorised regiment 'Großdeutschland' in the task, right?
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Red Army
Yes, Friedrich.I see it as Das Reich winning the race with Klingenberg´s great move!
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwi...n/20_260_2.htm
Since three separate attack forces were converging on Belgrade simultaneously, the Army High Command was not immediately able to determine which force was the first to reach the enemy capital. Toward early evening of 12 April, SS-Obersturmfuehrer (1st Lt.) Klingenberg of the 2d SS Motorized Infantry Division, finding all Danube bridges destroyed, took an SS patrol across the river in captured pneumatic rafts. The patrol entered the city unmolested, and at 1700 hoisted the Nazi flag atop the German legation. About two hours later the mayor of Belgrade officially handed over the city to Klingenberg who was accompanied by a representative of the German Foreign Ministry, previously interned by the Yugoslavs.
At Second Army headquarters, no word from the 8th Panzer Division elements, which were last reported approaching the western outskirts of Belgrade, had been received for twenty-four hours. Finally, at 1152 on 13 April the following radio message came through from the operations officer of the division:
During the night the 8th Panzer Division drove into Belgrade, occupied the center of the city, and hoisted the Swastika nag.
However, since better communications had existed between Second Army and First Panzer Group, the following flash was received shortly before the 8th Panzer Division message came in:
Panzer Group von Kleist has taken Belgrade from the south. Patrols of Motorized Infantry Regiment "Gross Deutschland" have entered the city from the north. With General von Kleist at the head, the 11th Panzer Division has been rolling into the capital since 0632.
Thus the race for Belgrade ended in a close finish with all three forces reaching their objective almost simultaneously.
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Allied and axis planes:
http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/html/sub/mshwapb1.htm#top
Well well, who´s that Geezer? Winston something...
PS. I have a feeling I did send this site before but as I don´t recall the Churchill pic I´ll put it down here anyway.
[img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Thanks again Kai! I was able to find a few good pictures of the Battle of Berlin on the site with the slide show.
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Kai, that site about the battle for the Balcans is really great! Thank you a lot! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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