I heard a guy the other day on the radio who has a book out.

He had spent years digging through all the old papers on all the research and technology programs the Nazis had, and found some very interesting stuff.

They were working with things like zero point energy, and the kind of strage energy techology that Tesla was working on.

After the war and the allieds took Berlin, the technology dissapeared. They had some working prototypes of some strage things, but after the war they were lost.

Anyone know anything about any of this?

Just currious

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I think I might have heard somehting about this on a documentary played on the History Channel. I don't know anything on that particular subject but--Stevin or Erich might. If you don't get a reply--send them a PM ans ask them. Or better yet--you might be able to ask Kai to find out some things for you on the web. Kai is king of the links on these forums.

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Sounds like a guest on Art Bell's radio program to me (for those elsewhere in the universe, Mr. Bell has a radio show in the US based on conspiricy theories, UFO sightings, wild rumors and, such). This book smacks of such, shall we say politely, undocumented and unverifiable nonsense. Personally, I like the U-boat base in Antartica where the Nazis are flying their UFO's from. It's much more creative.....

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They did have UFO's but not in the places you listed. Look up the information and pictures on a fighter called the Sak AS-6. It was built by a farmer no less !!

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Hello and Welcome to the Forums, Sidewalk...

T.A. Gardner's answer is very much like my own. Entertaining as these stories might be, I feel these stories are the product over an over-creative mind.

Of course the Germans were very much interested in different technologies, but this story was created by taking bits and pieces from different projects, a lot of free interpretation and making up the rest.

I can't say for sure this theory isn't true, but I count on it. The Art Bell's of this world have always found that the Third Reich was the foundation of a lot of these technologies, captured and build upon by the Americans after the war.

Yes...well....Maybe that facility that Erich and Martin discussed here recently has something to do with it....

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AS the end closed in for Germany all kinds of secret programs ( most totally with just a tiny bit of scientific evidence of succeeding ) were begun and I´m sure these will give sources for many books to be published in the future still.

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Nazi Germany has developped many important technologies which influenced the after-war, especially in military terms. Rockets, jets, pressure mines etc. were German inventions.

The zero point energy thingy is a complete fariy tale - this energy exists in each particle, and can't be extracted.

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Indeed, without the V1, V2, Me262, ... the Americans and the Russians wouldn't have gotten so fast on the moon and in space.

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Not entirely true. Not even mostly true. The US, at least, had good programs in place for developing ballistic missiles. Both the GALCIT (Guggenheim Aerospace Laboratory, California Institute of Technology later the Jet Propuslsion Laboratory)and ORDCIT research programs developed many things ahead of the Germans like solid fuels, storable liquid fuels, steerable rocket motors etc.
Post war and late war missile programs were also very diverisfied. But, the US allowed many of these programs to only develop to the point of finished research rather than deployable systems.
It was a much more balanced program than the German one that concentrated on a very advanced, if marginally useful, handful of systems.
Even in jet aircraft the US and Britain benefited to only a limited extent from German research.
The German wartime programs were not some cornicopia of technology that put them years ahead of the Allies. In some areas they were ahead, in others behind. Did the Western Allies benefit from their developments, yes. But, most of those developments had only short-term benefits.
I would say that the Russians benefited far more initially from captured German programs and research than the US or Britain did. But, even they cast aside their German scientists once their current knowledge base was exploited.

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I agree with you about the jets, but not the rockets.

whatever missile project the US had, it remains a fact that Wernher von Braun succeeded when pure American programs failed.

German knowledge played a major role in the space race.

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I agree it played a role but hardly major one. The Redstone which was used in the first Mercury launches for example was a GALCIT project with little or no German influence on it.
Atlas used later in the program was a Convair product with absolutely no German post war input. The reason I say that was that there was some influence from the V-2 on earlier work by Convair but, this was in the form of captured materials given them during the war. By 1947 with their MX 774 project Convair had virtually redesigned the V-2 into an entirely new rocket.
Even at that, only 130 German rocket scientists and engineers were brought to the US post war out of about 600 technical personnel total. Hardly an impressive number when one considers the thousands working already in the US at that time. Those Germans that did work on US programs did so entirely with the US Army and the ORDCIT program. They had little, if any, input on other programs outside that realm, like those being done by the USAF and USN.

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I guess the Russians did quite alot of spying and stealing as well in the USA...Know about that, T.A.?

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Well, with that I would have to agree. The Soviets benefited more initially from their captured German rocket scientists than the US did. They pretty much got what they could out of them while not letting them have any real control of programs (they were not even allowed to watch test shots or missile launches). By the mid 50's most had been repatriated to Germany or otherwise taken out of the Soviet program...if you follow my meaning...
The Soviets also benefited from spying in the US as well. The US being an open society it should have been expected. Of course, the US did have some good intelligence on what the Soviets were doing to particularly from electronic sources and satellites / spy planes.
One example was after the ABM treaty was signed the US caught the Soviets red handed (so to speak) testing SA 5 missiles for use as ABM's in violation of the treaty. They did it by using airborne listening stations that recorded the telemetry and from that they were able to break the coded command channels for the missile to determine that the shots were for ABM testing.

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