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January 13th, 2005, 05:28 PM
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We have a media storm now over Prince Harry - apparently 'caught' by a paparazzi attending a fancy-dress party ; the 'fancy dress' apparently consisting of a Swastika armband.
A very stupid and thoughtless thing to do - but that's typical of hooray-henry humour  [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]
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January 13th, 2005, 05:36 PM
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Does this guy have a brain?

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January 13th, 2005, 08:35 PM
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A complete moron, I'm guessing he won't be king... Plus - the Queen will be honoring the holocost in a few weeks - perfect timing ...
And ... his outfit was supposedly an Africa Corps uniform - did they even wear armbands? Hell, if you're going to make an ass out of yourself - be a historically accurate ass  Any reenactors out there that can put in two cents?
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January 14th, 2005, 09:59 AM
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There is a lot of hypocrysy about Harry's joke.
If he was dressed as soviet NKVD or SMIERSZ officer people would be delighted.I'd advice more distance.
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January 14th, 2005, 01:53 PM
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Stupid and childish. I bet the veterans will love his joke. Just the moustache missing...
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January 14th, 2005, 03:30 PM
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drache, I think Harry is wearing the going out leisure NSDAP special summer weight tunic with no accessories and without regulation underwear. Hmm how thoughtless of him.
what a wingnut
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January 14th, 2005, 07:48 PM
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I don't think there was any malicious intent here, but he realy, really should have known better.
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January 15th, 2005, 11:10 AM
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In the main section of today's 'Daily Telegraph' :
'Prince Harry Holocaust gaffe....etc '
In the education section of the same paper :
'Young people today tend to get their knowledge of history from movies, such as Alexander ....'
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January 17th, 2005, 02:28 AM
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It seems Harry might have to visit Auschwitz.
"Dad orders 'Harry the Nazi,' brother to visit death camp at Auschwitz"
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/broadban...heedge-utility
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January 17th, 2005, 07:29 AM
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The focus of the dabate has shifted here from the Nazi question to the upper-class-twit-fancy-dress-party itself, the theme of which was - wait for it - 'Colonials & Natives' .....
'OK Yah ! No sh*t ! How jolly !' [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img] 
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January 17th, 2005, 08:40 AM
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That even more brings into question Harry's sense of history....What has that got to do with nazi's?
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January 17th, 2005, 11:43 AM
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Well - he supposedly went dressed as an Afrika Korps soldier - the guys who rushed around North Africa wearing Swastika armbands ( not..  )
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January 17th, 2005, 12:21 PM
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One article published here in Finland claimed that in the first place he was going to wear a black SS-uniform but they could not find one big enough for him. Well, anyone else read this?
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January 17th, 2005, 03:21 PM
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the whole thing is a joke just like his own life
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January 17th, 2005, 05:54 PM
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I was curious as what the function is of the royal family in England. I did not think they still have legislative powers but I don't know that much about what they are still around for. I don't mean this in a demeaning way at all to the forums members I was just wondering if they served a better purpose than being an embaressment to the British people. I know there is a tradition to keep up but I just don't see why the tax payers would want to pay for it out of their pockets.
Again, I am not putting down the UK, I hope to visit there some day. I just need an idea of why they pay to have a Royal Family that acts almost as strange a Michel Jackson.
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January 17th, 2005, 07:52 PM
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Probably because the only people who act even stranger are politicians..... 
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January 17th, 2005, 09:01 PM
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Aye true, Martin.
TA, the Monarch is still the titular head of state in Britain. She chooses which political party to form the government from after a general election. The government rules in her name; ALL Mp's(yes even the die-hard "Commies") have to swear allegiance (one reason why Gerry Adams never took up his seat in Westminster until the rules were myseriously relaxed). Laws are made in her name, coinage is issued in her name,taxes are collected in her name. No bill can become law until the Monarch reads, signs and approves it. She also disbands Parliament at the end of each session, and reassembles it at the start of the next one.
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January 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
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Hey guys,
I just read of a possible EU wide ban on Nazi symbols because of Harry's actions. Has anyone else heard this? Or am I just behind the curve?
BRUSSELS, Belgium (Jan. 17) - The European Union may consider banning Nazi symbols in its 25 member nations after Britain's Prince Harry wore a swastika armband to a costume party, the bloc's top justice official said Monday.
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By CONSTANT BRAND, AP
A copy of the Jan. 13 front page of The Sun newspaper in Britain shows Prince Harry wearing a swastika and an army shirt with Nazi regalia at a friend's party.
Franco Frattini, the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner, said he was open to discussing the issue at a Jan. 27 meeting of EU justice ministers.
"It may be worth looking into the possibility of a total ban, a Europe-wide ban," his spokesman, Friso Roscam Abbing, told reporters Monday. "Commissioner Frattini shares the general feeling of opprobrium on the use of the swastika and other Nazi symbols."
The call came after several German conservatives, socialists and liberal democrats in the European Parliament urged a European ban following a scandal last week over photos published worldwide of Harry, third in line to the British throne, wearing the Nazi outfit.
German Socialist Helmut Kuhne called Harry a "royal idiot" for not knowing the consequences and World War II history linked to the Nazi swastika.
Germany already bans such symbols.
But British Liberal Democrat Chris Davies questioned the need to ban the swastika.
"I understand how the burden of history weighs upon my German colleagues' view," he said. "However, banning symbols cannot ban evil and risks playing into the hands of those who would seek to subvert the very liberties we most champion."
Roscam Abbing said Frattini would urge EU ministers to use the swastika incident to push for agreement on EU-wide rules to combat racism, fascism and anti-Semitism.
A proposal was introduced two years ago but discussions have failed to make headway. Roscam Abbing said officials would take care not to violate freedom of expression in devising such a ban.
Frattini's decision to look into an EU-wide ban could further embarrass Queen Elizabeth II, who is to lead British commemorations of the Holocaust in London later this month.
01/17/05 11:15 EST
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January 18th, 2005, 12:18 AM
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Just on a side matter with regard to the banning of Nazi emblems etc...I seem to recall the French tried to bring in a law making it illegal to advertise or sell sell such items and then someone pointed out the internet selling route.
Perhaps politicians don't really live in the real world...
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