Russia's security service said Wednesday there is sufficient evidence to prove that Yakov Dzhugashvili, the son of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, was held captive by the Germans in the Second World War.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070606/66791289.html

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Now the myth can be cleared.

It makes me think...didn't the germans offer a swap: German prisoners for Stalin's Son? I think he refused.

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Must be honest, I didn't realise there was any dispute that Stalin's son was taken prisoner

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if in doubt....Panic!!!!

Yes, Hitler wanted to trade Stalin's son for Paulus, at which time Stalin responded, " I wont trade an officer for a field Marshal ".

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

I'm with Redcoat here, This has never been seen as a myth has it?
I'd like to know who these "certain media" who "reported recently that Yakov never was in German captivity" are?

Cheers,
Adam.

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Im with you guys.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

I'm with Recoat and Poop, I didn't realize that this was an unresolved question.

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Best Regards,
JW

First time I hear this. How trustworthy is this report? Slava, what does the rest of the news in Russian say?

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"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."

The problem that im having is that im not sure if you are serious or being sarcastic?

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Dead serious, I have serious doubts on this matter.

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"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."

Maybe this is not Yakov or it´s a cut-and-paste picture....

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I take it this is the only photo of Stalin's gleam in his eye. I would have thought the Nazis would have made a propaganda coup of this.

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American by birth, TEXAN by the grace of GOD!

If you where Stalin, would you have accepted the change? A westerner would have probably made himself very ill if in that situation (well I would), your son or your country???

But stalin was an Evil B******, so it's no suprise he didn't want his son back.
If it was Churchill's son, an SAS team would probably be sent in. It would also be good practice for years to come...

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Churchill's Nephew, Giles Romilly, was one of the 'prominente' prisoners in German hands at Colditz... he escaped.

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"Wars cannot be fought with dream stuff" - Sir Percy Hobart.

This is not the only news source that has reported this. This has been on numerous sites as well as on TV. This is the only one in English that I thought some might find intersting. The FSB ( former KGB ) is equivalent to the FBI and they have access to sources that obviously the general public does not. I personally along with most Russians ( from my experience ) have always thought that Stalin's son was in German captivity. However there has always been and is a small population which has had its doubt on the matter. I believe that this is the reason why this has been made public.

The reliability? Hard to say, I guess when one believes something it is hard to change ones mind no matter what is presented. Why would the FSB or any other Russian govt. organization cover this matter up? after all worse things have been already revealed about Stalin, that would have never been so if communism was still around. As far as the Russian govt. is concerned this matter is closed.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

As I'm sure Stalin wasn't in the best mood upon hearing this news



Not so sure this is the case, after all Stalin was a father. In the beginning of the war all Russians who fell into German hands, were considered traitors to their motherland and a few which escaped captivity were either put on trial or sent to Shtrafbat units. ( this is where criminals, political prisoners and others were sent to repay the motherland and clean their slate by spilling their own blood, as you can imagine not very many ever made through the whole war. )

How would this have looked, if Stalin let others die but saved his own son? Also the fact that if he had indeed released Paulus, this would have had serious drawbacks.

This is a decision that I would never want to make.

sent in maybe, but would they hav been successful? very doubtful. Stalin's son at the time of his death was in Germany, not exactly the easiest place to get to at that time.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Joe, you simplify too much.

Therein lies the rub, Stalin would be in a very difficult position as POWs were equated to deserters, the lowest of the low, and he couldn't make any concessions to get his own POW son out.

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"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."

I recall reading/watching this before. Even that the Germans wanted to include him in a prisoner exchange, especially for some high ranking officers?

But Stalin wasn't going for it as much as the Germans anticipated.

I can't remember, was this before or after Stalin signed the General Order declaring all Soviets who surrendered and became POWs as traitors guilty of treason?

The exchange which the Germans attempted was for Field Marshall Paulus who they tried to liberate from his fate at Stalingrad.

The order was signed in 41' I believe.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler