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Old September 19th, 2007, 11:18 PM
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Day off from Auschwitz: The laughing death-camp guards at play | the Daily Mail
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Astonishing stuff Gordon.
View the Album itself here:
Collections | Auschwitz through the lens of the SS: Photos of Nazi leadership at the camp
& all the photographs here:
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They look like there's enough background detail for authentication to have been solid. Hopefully it's another one in the eye for the denialists... though they're hardly interested in the actuality.

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Old September 19th, 2007, 11:27 PM
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Wow, that is some disturbing stuff.


The album also contains eight photos of Mengele, the camp doctor notorious for participating in the selection of arriving prisoners for his barbaric medical experiments.
"These are the first authenticated pictures of Mengele at Auschwitz," said the museum.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 11:32 PM
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Cheers Adam.
The mind boggles.
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QUOTEand yet able to laugh, joke, drink and sunbathe as if they were no different to anyone elseUNQUOTE

Why shouldn't they laugh and joke?
Why do you seem surprised?
Just because they are mass killers doesn't mean they have to be miserable all day.
The human brian is a complex organ.
What seems normal to one person is abnormal to another.

They are still human beings, we're all capable of good and evil, just the extreme limits are different for everyone.
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You're right Owen, but with all that atmosphere around them, and in the atmosphere I include the smell of roast meat, it takes a bit for us to swallow this.

Perhaps some music would help to lighten up the spirits
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Interesting find Gordon. This is making news

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Excellent and at the same time a disturbing find, Blueberries, singing and laughing? while right next to them some many are suffering so much?. Despicable!

And yet some people still glorify these monsters!
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I saw it in the hard copy version of the Daily Mail, interesting and sickening at the same time.
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Without getting too psychoanalytical, I saw a show about how the guards and prisoners would become so desensitized that they considered what they were doing as normal. When all about you are insane, how do you stay sane? How do establish what is sane?
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sickens me...dont know how you can go about fun&games at a place like that...you gotta be sick...
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Agreed with everyone. Just the fact the another human being can watch someone just like he is with maybe a different language maybe not, but none the less, see these people the way that they look and are being treated and just look right through their attrocities!

Talk about justification of brutality.
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Even Eichmann in his office fell to the booze in 1944 and he even went up to the front line with his men trying to get killed in action. As for those who worked in the camps I just don't know what made them do it, brain washing or duty. The list just goes on and on, there is no end to what the evil side of man or woman can do.
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The scariest thing about the images is their very banality.
Whenever I read of these people I find myself thinking "what would I have done?", imagining myself growing up, finding work, generally existing etc. in the Third Reich... the chilling answer usually seems to be, given the same circumstances of those in the pictures; exactly the same.
Ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances can willingly, even dutifully, become psychopaths, as long as the dominant perception of what is 'right and proper' allows it.

Truly an insane situation, which the contrast between these shots, and those of emaciated skeletal adults & executed children, processed by factory methods, can only underline.

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Also werent these positions voluntary?
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Sometimes yes, sometimes rotational, it depended.
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Without getting too psychoanalytical, I saw a show about how the guards and prisoners would become so desensitized that they considered what they were doing as normal. When all about you are insane, how do you stay sane? How do establish what is sane?
I agree with Seadog, after a whille of witnessing such attrocities each day they would probably treat it as normal.

There is still the element that most of the guards were probably fanatics and what they were ordered to do they did with the view that orders must be carried out no matter what.
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...what they were ordered to do they did with the view that orders must be carried out no matter what.
That line of defence was thrown out by the Nuremberg Court. One is responsible for his actions. And it was also proved that those who refused to obey these orders didn't suffer any special punishments so that excuse went out the window as well.
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Disgusting but unfortunately not even the first time...how come it always seems the persons next to the heads/skulls seem like enjoying their job...
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