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Old January 12th, 2008, 03:23 PM
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Default Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

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President George Bush reopened one of the most sensitive issues in Allied conduct of the Second World War by saying yesterday "we should have bombed" the Auschwitz concentration camp.
The President's declaration, reviving one of the most enduring controversies from the war, came as he made an hour-long tour of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial museum before leaving Israel for Kuwait.

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Old January 12th, 2008, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Bombed when?
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Old January 12th, 2008, 03:51 PM
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Bombed when?
George Brush wished the Allies bombed the camps.

I'm just wondering why GB had not said it before?
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Old January 12th, 2008, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Yes I remember having debated this issue with some of you before. It was decided that bombing the place would have killed many innocents and stopped the infernal machine for a few days only. Some Holocaust survivors have stated that this precisely would have saved dozens and that it was worth being killed while the allies were trying to destroy the camp. It's a difficult issue and it's difficult to answer the question.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Agreed.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

The Allies had to focus on German war material and oil prodution first which was correct in shortening the war. As for GB I feel there something about that remark probably on the grounds of politics.
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

What about jumping down from the fence two years earlier? That would have saved a hell of a lot of people.
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Hmmmm...George has just gone to ask Condi about that one ; he'll get back to you later !
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Yes the issue has already been discussed here.... i remember that very well since i was the only one supporting the bombing and i fully explained why

but that's not the point here.... i'm posting here for another reason:

IF MR.W SAYS AUSCHWITZ HAD TO BE BOMBED THEN I WANT TO CHANGE MY POSITION: NOW I DON'T SUPPORT THE BOMBING ANY MORE.

i will never share mr.W ideas...but i woudn't mind sharing his secretary of state, possibly dressed to kill in black leather...
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IF MR.W SAYS AUSCHWITZ HAD TO BE BOMBED THEN I WANT TO CHANGE MY POSITION: NOW I DON'T SUPPORT THE BOMBING ANY MORE.

i will never share mr.W ideas...
That is not the best of reasons I could think of to influence one's position. Even I can find common ground with Bill Clinton, LBJ or FDR on many things and I have very little use for any one of them.
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

hey i was not serious! i thought it was obvious....
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Whew, That's good to know!

I wasn't sure, but you seemed so vehement about it.

So, I'm to guess you are a flaming pinko commie thug, then? Good to meetcha, I'm a jack-booted fascist thug.
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

When did he want to bomb it? Before the P.O.Ws came? During (let's hope not)? After? Taking things out of context is such a funny business.
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Why is this garbage thread still open? It is beneath the dignity and intelligence of most ( apparently not all ) of the people here.
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Why is this garbage thread still open? It is beneath the dignity and intelligence of most ( apparently not all ) of the people here.
In what way?
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

Please forgive me for misusing the forum - I'm something of a tyro around here. But then, obviously I have no dignity or intelligence.
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

I love this:
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The last sitting U.S. president to visit was Clinton in 1994.
The last president to visit was... errr... the previous one...

Main Auschwitz bombing thread:
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Default Re: Bush: We should have bombed Auschwitz

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Why do I say this thread is out of hand and should have been closed?
Report it then.

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the entire motive for bashing the president is obvious from the person that posted it and what on earth it has to do with the other intelligent discussions of WWII here I have no idea.


Forum bating.........

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Please forgive me for misusing the forum - I'm something of a tyro around here. But then, obviously I have no dignity or intelligence.
Bullcrap......You are one of (if not) the most dignified and intelligent individuals amongst these rogues here. Keep on posting your thoughts. I have spoken, now let it be done.
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